How do major book reviewers select books, and how much has social media and other technology changed the way they discover new titles? Do print galleys, pre-pub reviews and trade shows matter any more, as digital tools expand and print review outlets continue to shrink?
Those were some of the questions we explored with Lev Grossman, Time magazine’s book critic, technology writer and Nerd World blogger, and Carolyn Kellogg, who reviews for the Los Angeles Times and writes the Jacket Copy blog, last Friday our #followreader discussion on Twitter (October 30, 2009).
Among the highlights:
- Social media buzz is gaining importance, but it can’t make up for a book that doesn’t deliver
- Paper galleys are most desireable because taking notes in them is easy
- Standalone e-readers are still too expensive for these professional readers
- Some reviewers pay more attention to publisher marketing efforts than others
- Small houses do have a shot at getting reviewed
- Becoming the author of three novels has made Grossman wince at what he used to say in his reviews
- Reviewers do regret it when they miss the chance to review good books
Here’s the full conversation:
What makes you sit up & decide to review a book?
@leverus: Have your publicist tuck a $50 right around page 100. Works like a charm. Not many people know this. #followreader
@Corb21: we tucked 1,000,000 dollar bills in our books once…funny, but not necessarily more reviews. #followreader
@leverus: My antennae start to crackle when I see somebody doing something genuinely risky or genuinely new. #followreader
@leverus: Doesn’t happen very often. For example: I skipped the Doctorow this fall. It’s a great book. But not a new book. #followreader
@leverus: Formally, stylistically, thematically: I had seen Doctorow do these things before. No one does them better. But: not new. #followreader
@paperhaus: Well I nearly fell over dead when my editor showed me the new Thomas Pynchon. Having a recognizable name helps. Esp. Pynchon. #followreader
@leverus: Counterexample: Jess Walters’ FINANCIAL LIVES OF THE POETS. Nothing else I’ve read this year felt that utterly contemporary. #followreader
@leverus: (Except Cory Doctorow’s MAKERS) #followreader
@leverus: The more I review, the less I’m interested in names. The writing has to deliver. #followreader
@paperhaus: Since advance copies of books don’t have art, we rarely judge by the cover. #followreader
@charabbott: Does this mean you read 10x more books than you review? #followreader
@leverus: I wouldn’t put it as high as 10X. But I read a lot more books than I review. And I read a HELL of a lot of first chapters. #followreader
@bnreviewer: Curious to know what books over past year you passed on and now wish you’d covered (assuming any). #followreader
@leverus: There are so many worthy books I regret skipping. The Dan Chaon comes to mind. #followreader
@CollectedMisc: Is there a place for audacious failures? Works that tried something big but failed or did so in an interesting way? #followreader
@paperhaus: Yes, one of the great things about Jacket Copy (the LA Times book blog) is that we can cover so much #followreader
@leverus: Give an example of an audacious failure! I want names named. #followreader
@paperhaus: There was an intentionally failed book, @leverus, called B is for Bad Poetry – genuinely terrible poems, cute blog post. #followreader
@leverus: I would call KINDLY ONES an audacious failure. I was truly blown away by its ambition. #followreader
Where do you pick up buzz about new books and authors?
@charabbott: Do you just read the books on your desk? What else influences you? #followreader
@leverus: I read the trades. But I don’t trust them. I talk to editors and publicists and agents, a lot. And other writers. #followreader
@charabbott: Why not trust the trades? #followreader
@leverus: in the case of PW: no bylines. I need to know who the reviewers are, so I can understand their context, biases,etc #followreader
@Corb21: What chance does a smaller publishing house have at getting reviewed? What ups their ante? #followreader
@paperhaus: Indie houses have a good chance of getting attention around here. We review New Directions, Two Dollar Radio… #followreader
@charabbott: What’s the most offbeat book you’ve covered lately? #followreader
@paperhaus: Offbeat: probably LA BIZARRO, an updated list of wildly eclectic restaurants & places around LA. #followreader
@charabbott: How did you find out about LA BIZARRO. Sounds like a local publisher? #followreader
@paperhaus: LA BIZARRO was pubbed by Chronicle Books. #followreader
Do you use digital Galleys and e-Readers?
@NetGalley: Does having a printed galley on your desk influence you or will you track down a book if you want it? #followreader
@leverus: It never hurts to have a paper galley kicking around. But yes, I’ll hunt down a book if I know I want it. #followreader
@Corb21: how do you feel about a digital copy? Does it HAVE to be paper for you? #followreader
@leverus: No digital ARCs here. I don’t think e-reader tech is mature yet. and I need to take notes as I read. #followreader
@paperhaus: No digi ARCs here, either. Until a free reader shows up on my doorstep, I can’t afford to switch. #followreader
@leverus: It’s really about the note-taking functionality. Though also, yes, the $$$. Kindles are expensive. #followreader
@CollectedMisc: Just thought I would note that you can highlight and take notes on the Kindle and export as a text file. #followreader
@leverus Exporting from Kindle = possible but cumbersome. I’m a technophilic guy, but it has to outperform paper. to me, it doesn’t yet #followreader
@Corb21: if you got something digital would you ignore it or request the paper? #followreader
@leverus: I would request paper. Though if the pitch was v off-base, I would (to my lasting shame) probably ignore. #followreader
@paperhaus: I do not own an ebook reader, other than my iphone, on which I’ve installed several e-reader apps. #followreader
charabbott: Do you read for work on your iPhone? and if so, how does it affect the reviewing experience? #followreader
@paperhaus: I read on my iphone to compare apps for a blog post. But now it’s recreational; haven’t finished Moby Dick yet. #followreader
How Important is Publisher Marketing?
@jenwgilmore: Can we pls address the importance/influence of marketing? #followreader
@leverus: Re: marketing, I agree it is relevant. If a publisher is really investing $$$ in a book, that interests me. #followreader
@paperhaus: Wow, I’m really different than @leverus on this. I don’t care how much $ a pub house spends. This may be an east/west thing. #followreader
@leverus: I feel like I should clarify: marketing interests me b/c somebody at the house is willing to bet money on a book #followreader
@jenwgilmore: With so little marketing on “non-brand” names, what are the signals you respond to? The same as old days? #followreader
@leverus: Same as old days — “buzz,” whatever that means. gossip, good trades. but also blogs and twitter. #followreader
@paperhaus: My creaky old punk self distrusts marketing. Too much push and … I feel pushed. #followreader
@paperhaus: That said, it means a lot to have a genuine publisher or trusted publicist promoting your work. #followreader
@mattbucher: Should books be marketed at all? The cream will rise to the top?? #followreader
@leverus: I wish I believed that. I just don’t see the literary world as reliably meritocratic. sometimes cream sinks! #followreader
How Much Are Your Influenced by Social Media?
@charabbott: In the past year, have you heard more about books through social media or other online sources before publication? #followreader
@leverus: Yes, info about new books is definitely reaching me thru social media. Twitter especially, it’s amazing tool. #followreader
@paperhaus: I love hearing about books thru new channels (Twitter, Facebook) but also standing in the book room and reading #followreader
@paperhaus: But all the buzz in the world can’t save a book that doesn’t have that zing. #followreader
@Corb21: Who do reviewers trust on social media? Authors, Publishers, Publicists? Readers? #followreader
@paperhaus: Reviewers trust all of the above on social media: Authors, Publishers, Publicists, Readers #followreader
@michellekerns: I’d like to know what you both think about the explosion of blogs, etc. reviewing books. Does it drag the art down? #followreader
@paperhaus: I was an indie blogger before coming to the LATimes, so I’m a big fan of book blogging. More conversations! #followreader
@leverus: What a perilous question.More reviewers=more good reviewers, but I think there are irresponsible voices out there #followreader
@leverus: I think good reviewing rests on solid scholarship. must have read the precedents #followreader
@charabbott: Has direct feedback from readers via your blog prompted you to change any of your reviewing practices? #followreader
@paperhaus: re: direct feedback via the blog – never change practices. But my feelings have been hurt once or twice
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@ClaudiaC: I’ve read that people are more inteested in ‘people like me’ reviews (Amazon) vs. ‘expert’ reviews. Thoughts? #followreader
@leverus:it’s a huge question. too big for a tweet. shifting from top-down to bottom-up culture. will change everything! #followreader
@ClaudiaC: fascinating change! Do you see bottom-up culture happening? #followreader
@leverus: I really do. See my much maligned WSJ piece “Good Books Don’t Have to Be Hard” for extended-play version. #followreader
How much attention to you pay to trade shows?
@charabbott: What about trade shows? Do you rely on buzz from Book Expo as much as ever? #followreader
@paperhaus: I’ve been to 4 or 5 Book Expos and I think it’s changed a lot.
@leverus, you’ve been to lots more, right? #followreader
@leverus: I’ve been to a grand total of 3 book expos! #followreader
@leverus: I listen to trade show buzz. I’m looking for info everywhere, even if it’s not top quality info. more = more. #followreader
@leverus: But with Book Expo in New York now, I’ll never be able to escape it again. #followreader
How much does your readership, and being an author yourself influence you?
@susanmpls: does your reader demographic influence picks? Or are you selecting what peaks your interest? #followreader
@leverus: reader demo does affect what I cover. I’m paid to serve Time readers. They skew older, and female.I keep it in mind #followreader
@charabbott: How has yr experience as an author changed your approach to reviewing? #followreader
@leverus: Being an author has definitely made me a gentler reviewer. I realize it’s partly a conversation w/ the author. #followreader
@charabbott: It sounds like you don’t review books you hate – so that should help with author relations! #followreader
@leverus: I don’t do hatchet jobs anymore. I used to. I wince when I think about it. #followreader Future of reviews?
@NetGalley: Do you worry about disappearance of standalone book review sections? or trust reviews will be elsewhere? #followreader
@leverus: I worry about disappearing book sections. but at the same time I wonder if they couldn’t do more to save themselves #followreader
@paperhaus: It’s OK for books not to have a stand-alone section; the real challenge today is to newspapers as a whole. #followreader
@paperhaus: I worry that professional reviewing is shrinking – anyone who wants in has to work xtra hard, bloggers or not
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