For last week’s #FollowReader Twitchat, we were honored to be joined by Kathy Ishizuka of School Library Journal, and Shayera Tangri of the Los Angeles public library system.
Our topic of conversation was: Libraries in the Digital Age. And questions and comments ran the gamut from what digital offerings are offered by school and public libraries, to what services students and patrons could use more of, to severely diminished library budgets and how libraries make the most of them.
Some interesting issues that were brought up were: the confusion among patrons as to what digital offerings and services are available from what libraries; whether students are interested in/use the digital offerings made available to them in school libraries; how much of library budgets go to digital services versus paper books and other materials; how Internet e- and audio-book borrowing works across library branches and system; and the tidbit that Australian/UK authors receive royalties each time a book is checked out.
Among some of the really informative links shared during the conversation were:
- Growth of ebooks in libraries, an IFLA report. http://bit.ly/3kTBO9
- Library use value calculator from Maine State Library: http://bit.ly/10GnQd
- How lending rights work in Australia http://tinyurl.com/nzv82y
- School lib collections have been shrinking since 04/05: http://bit.ly/jih5
- Story about library that did away with Dewey Decimal: http://bit.ly/Urrxc
- ebooks’ in schools is evolving. Joyce Valenza only recently created this resource: http://bit.ly/JMBOe
- Dewey alts: Some r considering: http://bit.ly/BISAC
- Overdrive: http://tinyurl.com/lgdztz
Below is the entire transcript of the chat. Thanks to everyone who joined in, especially Kathy and Shayera. Tune into Twitter again on Thursday, August 27th at 4pm EST for another #FollowReader TwitChat!
Transcript of #FollowReader TwitChat: Thursday, August 20 2009:
Hi! Welcome special guests @kishizuka and @shayera. libraries braving the digital age is the topic today. #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:01:14 +0000 (msg id: 3434219894)
RT @KatMeyer: #followreader starting at 4pm EST. if u r joining us, consider using http://tweetchat.com/ to participate #followreader
Posted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:02:21 +0000 (msg id: 3434240905)
Tune in! RT @KatMeyer: Welcome special guests @kishizuka and @shayera. libraries braving the digital age is the topic today. #followreader
Posted by DSloanandco at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:02:47 +0000 (msg id: 3434249105)
Looking forward to the discussion. Any school librarians, media specialists out there? #followreader
Posted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:03:32 +0000 (msg id: 3434263123)
Great #followreader topic today! RT @KatMeyer: Welcome special guests @kishizuka & @shayera -libraries braving the digital age #followreader
Posted by KateMessner at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:03:52 +0000 (msg id: 3434269365)
Hi. Looking forward to today’s discussion. #followreader
Posted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:04:09 +0000 (msg id: 3434274898)
My first question for our guests, has the role of the library changed – or just the way services are delivered? #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:04:54 +0000 (msg id: 3434289055)
reminder: today we’re talking about libraries and librarians in the digital age. Please share your questions and thoughts. #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:05:47 +0000 (msg id: 3434306011)
How will digital books work in a library? Loan out readers w/books? Guess that’s a DRM question… #followreader
Posted by JennWebb at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:06:36 +0000 (msg id: 3434320827)
How does a library today get students to use library, rather than the “just Google-it” mentality? #followreader #followreader
Posted by chuckmartin1 at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:07:02 +0000 (msg id: 3434328618)
@KatMeyer I think we’ve evolved into being less research centers and more community centers. Yes, delivery methods change too #followreader
Posted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:07:14 +0000 (msg id: 3434332144)
I think part of the “delivery of services” in a school setting is much more involved than just that, delivering content. #followreader
Posted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:07:42 +0000 (msg id: 3434340554)
@KatMeyer RE: Role of library changed…changed from what? PLZ provide frame of reference. #followreader
Posted by bsandusky at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:07:46 +0000 (msg id: 3434341963)
@chuckmartin1 I believe that some area libraries are booming with young people. #followreader
Posted by mciddangelo at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:09:07 +0000 (msg id: 3434366626)
Do you think there will be more chances to use libraries as a “world” resource? (check out e-books no matter where you are?) #followreader
Posted by jnyrose at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:09:19 +0000 (msg id: 3434370281)
@JennWebb Libraries have loaned ebooks for years. We (LAPL) doesn’t loan ereaders, but patrons can upload to ones they own. #followreader
Posted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:09:54 +0000 (msg id: 3434380780)
On the school side, it involves information literacy, which includes the critical evaluation of sources. #followreader
Posted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:10:03 +0000 (msg id: 3434383636)
@kishizuka But that’s true in public libraries as well. We can’t let students go out with incorrect data, materials, etc. #followreader
Posted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:12:01 +0000 (msg id: 3434420332)
eg: digi universal library card?RT @jnyrose: Do you think there will be more chances to use libraries as a “world” resource? #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:12:03 +0000 (msg id: 3434421158)
@jnyrose You pretty much already can, as long as you have a valid card for the system in question. #followreader
Posted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:13:30 +0000 (msg id: 3434449418)
.@shayera – do patrons seek out digital content? how are public libraries letting patrons know about new offerings +services? #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:14:15 +0000 (msg id: 3434463094)
World Cat already gives opportunity to find books anywhere in the world #followreader http://tinyurl.com/r9azr
Posted by VassilikiVeros at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:14:49 +0000 (msg id: 3434473509)
I know new technologies have make me think a lot about what a library *is*, and what newly powerful areas exist, possibilities #followreader
Posted by mutabilis at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:15:01 +0000 (msg id: 3434477441)
@shayera @JennWebb ebooks’ in schools is evolving. Joyce Valenza only recently created this resource: http://bit.ly/JMBOe #followreader
Posted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:15:15 +0000 (msg id: 3434482111)
.@kishizuka + in school libraries, do students seek out/expect digital media offerings? #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:15:19 +0000 (msg id: 3434483327)
bear with us, even tweetchat is slow in refreshing — there’s a bit of delay on my side. #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:15:58 +0000 (msg id: 3434495683)
Currently, I seek out e-books only from libraries. Unwilling to buy them b/c of DRM. #followreader
Posted by jnyrose at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:16:10 +0000 (msg id: 3434499372)
@shayera But how is it a loan? If I go to the library, put a book on Stanza on my iPhone, how does the library take it back? #followreader
Posted by JennWebb at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:16:13 +0000 (msg id: 3434500438)
One thing working against a universal card is that most American libraries are supported with local funding. #followreader
Posted by mutabilis at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:16:30 +0000 (msg id: 3434505979)
RT @KatMeyer: Neat idea: library use value calculator … what’s yr library card worth$ to you? http://bit.ly/10GnQd (#followreader)
Posted by gtoppo at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:16:34 +0000 (msg id: 3434507060)
@KatMeyer Am relieved #followreader has not migrated to FriendFeed, a most perplexing interface. #followreader
Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:16:57 +0000 (msg id: 3434514044)
@kishizuka @shayera Is it realistic 2 bleve *everything* will b all digital soon? if so, when? seems weve hrd that 4 years. #followreader
Posted by belsito at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:17:06 +0000 (msg id: 3434516933)
@shayera @kishizuka what do you see as the brightest opportunity for librairies? & the biggest threat? #followreader
Posted by Writing_Is_Fun at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:17:21 +0000 (msg id: 3434521405)
It can be frustrating sometimes that people assume we’re behind the times as far as e-content. They’re always surprised. #followreader
Posted by mutabilis at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:17:34 +0000 (msg id: 3434525568)
@JennWebb The file has an expiry date, it locks itself and you can’t access it after the loan period. #followreader
Posted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:17:48 +0000 (msg id: 3434529876)
Libraries have been providing ref & research digitally for yrs.Now moving to providing digital access for recreational reading #followreader
Posted by VassilikiVeros at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:17:58 +0000 (msg id: 3434532828)
@Writing_Is_Fun The biggest threat? Lack of funds. #followreader
Posted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:19:02 +0000 (msg id: 3434552923)
@belsito No, I don’t think everything will be available digitally. Humans have a pretty steep learning curve. #followreader
Posted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:19:04 +0000 (msg id: 3434553324)
@belsito It’s something we talked about a lot when I was in Library School. And it hasn’t changed in the past decade, I think. #followreader
Posted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:19:42 +0000 (msg id: 3434564997)
Digital is the way to go for language-learning programs — perfect thing to borrow from library! #followreader
Posted by BenRubinstein at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:19:59 +0000 (msg id: 3434570340)
@Writing_Is_Fun The greatest op? From the school side, for libraries to take charge from an information literacy standpoint. #followreader
Posted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:20:17 +0000 (msg id: 3434576164)
@kishizuka Lack of funds, but also lack of standards and absence of some extremely popular books. #followreader
Posted by mutabilis at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:20:24 +0000 (msg id: 3434578474)
@shayera You need to call my public library and tell them about that feature! 
Thank you. Had no idea. #followreader
Posted by JennWebb at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:20:24 +0000 (msg id: 3434578479)
@Writing_Is_Fun In public libraries, I think the biggest threats are lack of funds and support. #followreader
Posted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:20:39 +0000 (msg id: 3434583146)
@shayera Do you mean support from patrons? #followreader
Posted by Writing_Is_Fun at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:21:26 +0000 (msg id: 3434597654)
@kishizuka @shayera no kidding. Talk about somehow squeezing a dime to fund a dollar worth of services. #followreader
Posted by jnyrose at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:21:59 +0000 (msg id: 3434607724)
thank u @writing_is_fun – these are great questions! #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:22:05 +0000 (msg id: 3434609733)
@mutabilis Yes, standards, hardware costs/support and in K-12 – filtering (w/ etextbooks) #followreader
Posted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:22:41 +0000 (msg id: 3434620426)
@Writing_Is_Fun Actually, I meant more from the Mayor, City Council. But having a supportive Friends group is pretty great. #followreader
Posted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:23:26 +0000 (msg id: 3434633929)
One threat with digital content is that you lose the face2face contact, and risk that ppl will have less of a stake in lib’y. #followreader
Posted by mutabilis at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:23:40 +0000 (msg id: 3434638159)
@shayera what types of publicity catch your eye RE new books? Which mediums have the biggest impact your decisions? #followreader
Posted by rustyshelton at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:23:44 +0000 (msg id: 3434639188)
@rustyshelton I have to admit that I don’t have any input in purchasing digital material for our system. I’m a branch manager. #followreader
Posted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:24:43 +0000 (msg id: 3434656881)
@shayera + @kishizuka, as readers/patrons – what service/offering of libraries do you most use and appreciate it? #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:24:57 +0000 (msg id: 3434661090)
Most libraries in our area have zero digital content available. Barely offer internet service #followreader
Posted by buriedbybooks at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:25:00 +0000 (msg id: 3434662034)
#followreader In digital age, access isn’t probelm–discovery & filtering is. I’d like to see libaries helping me choose what to access.
Posted by susanmpls at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:25:07 +0000 (msg id: 3434664132)
@KirkusReviews Chat going on now at #followreader on libraries and the digital age. Come and join us.
Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:25:07 +0000 (msg id: 3434664278)
@rustyshelton But, having said that, I do go to BookExpo every year and I make sure to keep an eye on the digital side. #followreader
Posted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:25:29 +0000 (msg id: 3434670857)
Mine, too. RT @buriedbybooks: Most libraries in our area have zero digital content available. Barely offer internet service. #followreader
Posted by JennWebb at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:25:56 +0000 (msg id: 3434678957)
@susanmpls Totally agree, Susan. I love to browse among real books to find what I want. #followreader
Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:26:31 +0000 (msg id: 3434689387)
@KatMeyer Hmm, do kids expect digital services? There’s a divide between what’s avail in school and what they use in life. #followreader
Posted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:26:39 +0000 (msg id: 3434691899)
@susanmpls Libraries do this.I believe you need to shop around for librarian that suits your needs just like finding a doctor #followreader
Posted by VassilikiVeros at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:26:41 +0000 (msg id: 3434692562)
So many libraries are trying to learn how to be more “human” online, so as to retain what is so satisfactory about face2face. #followreader
Posted by mutabilis at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:26:54 +0000 (msg id: 3434696296)
@kishizuka @shayera What are some recent technologies/products that are resonating most with K-12 kids? #followreader
Posted by belsito at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:26:54 +0000 (msg id: 3434696475)
I think that libraries can and will compete in the digital age by becoming increasingly versatile in their mission. #followreader
Posted by mciddangelo at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:27:15 +0000 (msg id: 3434702949)
As an author, I’d be lost w/out my library’s ability/willingness to secure materials through inter-library loan. #followreader #followreader
Posted by KateMessner at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:27:19 +0000 (msg id: 3434704114)
Do I have to physically visit a library branch to take advantage of their digital offerings? #followreader
Posted by chriswebb at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:27:48 +0000 (msg id: 3434712943)
.@shayera what service/offering do you think goes most underused by patrons? @kishizuka – what about school libraries? #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:27:56 +0000 (msg id: 3434715313)
@susanmpls #followreader. That is a great idea. Went to the library this am and was thinking (more vaguely) along the same lines.
Posted by bigalicenyc at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:27:59 +0000 (msg id: 3434716446)
@VassilikiVeros Ha, I like that idea. Shopping for librarian like shopping for doctor. But goodreads.com helps too #followreader
Posted by BenRubinstein at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:28:04 +0000 (msg id: 3434718022)
@kishizuka libraries often the only chance for my low-income students to use digital services. Nowhere else to learn how. #followreader
Posted by jnyrose at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:28:08 +0000 (msg id: 3434719134)
@KatMeyer I’ve been using the emusic and evideo quite a lot. It’s a great way to find older, less known movies and music. #followreader
Posted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:28:10 +0000 (msg id: 3434719750)
RT @mutabilis: So many libraries are trying to learn how to be more “human” online,retain face2face. #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:28:46 +0000 (msg id: 3434731432)
@VassilikiVeros The rhetoric I hear coming from libraries is about more & more content. I want to hear more about filters. #followreader
Posted by susanmpls at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:29:06 +0000 (msg id: 3434737460)
Live in Kindle dead zone. eBooks not a big thing out here. #followreader
Posted by buriedbybooks at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:29:11 +0000 (msg id: 3434739013)
@BenRubinstein GoodReads is amazing. Made my preteen a reader. I bow at their feet. #followreader
Posted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:29:34 +0000 (msg id: 3434745698)
@kishizuka There’s a HUGE gap btwn. kids’ school and real life tech use. We’re discussing in my district now. #followreader #followreader
Posted by KateMessner at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:30:07 +0000 (msg id: 3434756269)
@belsito I’m surprised by the number who are very comfortable w/ ebooks. They can bypass long wait lists. #followreader
Posted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:30:14 +0000 (msg id: 3434759071)
RT @shayera: @KatMeyer Ive been using emusic +evideo quite a lot. Its a great way to find older, less known movies and music. #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:30:37 +0000 (msg id: 3434765823)
@chriswebb Nope, not as long as you have a valid library card. #followreader
Posted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:30:49 +0000 (msg id: 3434770375)
Funding, hardware, software, tech support real impediments to digital offerings. #followreader
Posted by buriedbybooks at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:31:04 +0000 (msg id: 3434774951)
#followreader Libraries in my area have good internet access, but no digital loans. I’ve never seen anyone w/ an eReader, so not surprised.
Posted by ChristFocus at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:31:10 +0000 (msg id: 3434777002)
@chriswebb Most libraries, public and school, have online portals. Here’s a cool one for teens http://www.bighouselibrary.com/ #followreader
Posted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:31:19 +0000 (msg id: 3434779968)
All issues we’ve been thinking about a lot as we change from the Mercantile Library to the Center for Fiction this fall.#followreader
Posted by Center4Fiction at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:31:37 +0000 (msg id: 3434785704)
@susanmpls I think that libs need to work on the filtering too. It’s about managing your information #followreader
Posted by VassilikiVeros at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:31:44 +0000 (msg id: 3434788150)
I borrowed e-reader from my library, a flimsy thing that didn’t work. #followreader
Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:32:04 +0000 (msg id: 3434794437)
@shayera Do you have an online service for borrowing ebooks? #followreader
Posted by Writing_Is_Fun at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:32:05 +0000 (msg id: 3434794602)
RT @kishizuka: …online portals. Heres a cool one for teens http://www.bighouselibrary.com/ #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:32:18 +0000 (msg id: 3434798936)
FWIW, my public library system offers live online chat w/librarian, remote lending of ebks, online tools to find/reserve bks #followreader
Posted by susanmpls at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:32:20 +0000 (msg id: 3434799300)
I, too, love to browse among real books to find what I want. I just love being surrounded by books. #followreader
Posted by GenreReviewer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:32:29 +0000 (msg id: 3434802313)
We’re just starting an initiative to recruit/teach local teens for creation of content for the TeenZone of website. #followreader
Posted by mutabilis at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:33:01 +0000 (msg id: 3434811718)
@maggiedana What type of reader did they loan out? How did the process work? You choose ebook…they load and loan? #followreader
Posted by belsito at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:33:08 +0000 (msg id: 3434814181)
True. RT @GenreReviewer: I, too, love to browse among real books to find what I want. I just love being surrounded by books. #followreader
Posted by jnyrose at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:33:21 +0000 (msg id: 3434818281)
@KatMeyer Some of the databases we subscribe to are really fantastic, but ignored/missed/ #followreader
Posted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:33:23 +0000 (msg id: 3434818785)
@KateMessner Yes, ILL is an amazing service. Wonder how many young people use it? #followreader
Posted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:33:38 +0000 (msg id: 3434823299)
@belsito Book already on e-reader. Can’t remember brand. I imagine they take a beating and are cheaply made. #followreader
Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:34:01 +0000 (msg id: 3434830396)
Notice huge disparity between urban and rural libraries on digital access and focus #followreader
Posted by buriedbybooks at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:34:17 +0000 (msg id: 3434835113)
Libraries have always been comm cntrs, but more so now than ever. Means more guys surfing porn, but also more book groups,etc. #followreader
Posted by Center4Fiction at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:34:17 +0000 (msg id: 3434835235)
@kishizuka I teach my students about ILL – in 7th grade, most of them are STUNNED that a library will do this, and for free! #followreader
Posted by KateMessner at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:34:35 +0000 (msg id: 3434840870)
.@kishizuka @shayera – do libraries feel pressured that they are being asked to do too much – offer everything to everyone? #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:34:41 +0000 (msg id: 3434842915)
There is something about finding a book through serendipity which is slightly harder to re-create when you browse websites #followreader
Posted by VassilikiVeros at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:34:43 +0000 (msg id: 3434843538)
A big problem in K-12: RT @shayera: @KatMeyer Some of the databases we subscribe to are really fantastic, but ignored/missed/ #followreader
Posted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:34:54 +0000 (msg id: 3434846900)
I seriously doubt a loanable e-reader is as sturdy or long-lived as a casebound book. #followreader
Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:35:01 +0000 (msg id: 3434849211)
As you don’t have 2 visit the library 2 get electronic offerings, do you feel might jeopardize funding for physical buildings? #followreader
Posted by JenniferWeltz at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:35:18 +0000 (msg id: 3434854641)
??Can we really recreate that sense of community and talk about books in the virtual library? #followreader
Posted by Center4Fiction at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:35:25 +0000 (msg id: 3434856770)
#followreader does anyone think Gutenberg project is the new online library and physical libraries role is to continue with hard copy?
Posted by ReeshaGeppert at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:35:33 +0000 (msg id: 3434859036)
How are people using ‘filtering’ here? Do you mean filters for safer web, or filters in sense of selection/advice? #followreader
Posted by mutabilis at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:35:40 +0000 (msg id: 3434861330)
@Writing_Is_Fun LAPL uses Overdrive: http://tinyurl.com/lgdztz #followreader
Posted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:36:02 +0000 (msg id: 3434868364)
Keep me posted -RT @mutabilis: starting an initiative to recruit/teach local teens to create content for TeenZone of website. #followreader
Posted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:36:05 +0000 (msg id: 3434869142)
In NSW, Aust disparity between urban and rural libraries on digital access is smaller due to State Lib purchasing cooperative #followreader
Posted by VassilikiVeros at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:36:09 +0000 (msg id: 3434870684)
@Center4Fiction What’s the etiquette when you see a guy surfing porn at library? Excommunication? #followreader
Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:36:15 +0000 (msg id: 3434872356)
@KatMeyer #followreader I like your question. Anyone?
Posted by ReeshaGeppert at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:36:27 +0000 (msg id: 3434876465)
.@kishizuka do most k-12 schools teach kids how to use libraries? (they did when i was little) #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:36:35 +0000 (msg id: 3434879145)
OK TweetChat acting weird… can someone tell me what ILL is? #followreader
Posted by Writing_Is_Fun at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:36:39 +0000 (msg id: 3434880149)
@Center4Fiction it also means that libraries are helping CREATE not just organize what already exists. Tools so cheap now. #followreader
Posted by mutabilis at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:37:01 +0000 (msg id: 3434886936)
RT @mutabilis: starting an initiative to recruit/teach local teens to create content for TeenZone of website. #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:37:13 +0000 (msg id: 3434890918)
Absolutely! RT@VassilikiVeros Something about finding a book thru serendipity. Harder to re-create when you browse websites #followreader
Posted by buriedbybooks at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:37:18 +0000 (msg id: 3434892246)
@Center4Fiction Absolutely! Important service for housebound and isolated communities. #followreader
Posted by VassilikiVeros at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:37:33 +0000 (msg id: 3434896690)
@KatMeyer Definitely, I think. It’s a bit easier in a huge system, but it’s very hard. #followreader
Posted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:37:33 +0000 (msg id: 3434896915)
@ReeshaGeppert I admire Gutenberg Project. But am torn with the feel of a book in hand, or global-friendly publishing #followreader
Posted by mciddangelo at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:37:34 +0000 (msg id: 3434897055)
@Writing_Is_Fun ILL= Inter-library loan #followreader
Posted by susanmpls at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:37:41 +0000 (msg id: 3434899240)
YES!!! RT@VassilikiVeros Something about finding a book thru serendipity. Harder to re-create when you browse websites #followreader
Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:38:10 +0000 (msg id: 3434908094)
umm, globl meaning, of course, environmentally friendly. #followreader
Posted by mciddangelo at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:38:17 +0000 (msg id: 3434910136)
@Writing_Is_Fun inter library loan (i think):) #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:38:30 +0000 (msg id: 3434914216)
@susanmpls Thanks Susan #followreader
Posted by Writing_Is_Fun at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:39:00 +0000 (msg id: 3434923255)
@maggiedana It’s interesting they took that step! I wonder what other libraries do that… #followreader
Posted by belsito at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:39:05 +0000 (msg id: 3434924564)
Hmm, how to foster serendipity online … #followreader
Posted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:39:21 +0000 (msg id: 3434929663)
@KatMeyer Yes schools do teach kids and take them to libraries but downloading books is not yet in the mix. #followreader
Posted by JenniferWeltz at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:39:38 +0000 (msg id: 3434934947)
@ReeshaGeppert Project Gutenburg is for materials that are in the public domain. They can’t fill the role of a public library. #followreader
Posted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:39:39 +0000 (msg id: 3434935079)
RT @kishizuka: Hmm, how to foster (ebook) serendipity online … #followreader
Posted by Writing_Is_Fun at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:40:07 +0000 (msg id: 3434944127)
RT @maggiedana I seriously doubt a loanable e-reader is as sturdy or long-lived as a casebound book. #followreader
Posted by pitchparlour at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:40:12 +0000 (msg id: 3434945949)
@KatMeyer My son’s school has weekly trips to the school library to learn how to use it and about books. #followreader
Posted by pussreboots at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:40:22 +0000 (msg id: 3434949214)
@VassilikiVeros I absolutely agree with you about that! #followreader
Posted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:40:39 +0000 (msg id: 3434954576)
@maggiedana Can’t have the content deleted so easily either! #followreader
Posted by pitchparlour at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:40:47 +0000 (msg id: 3434956996)
@KatMeyer Public libraries have always been about offering everything to everyone. Jack of all trades – master of none #followreader
Posted by VassilikiVeros at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:40:47 +0000 (msg id: 3434957102)
@KatMeyer Library and research skills remain a big part of the job. Though some are ditching Dewey. #followreader
Posted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:40:58 +0000 (msg id: 3434960477)
@pussreboots And in college (18 years ago) I had to take a “how to use the library” 1 unit course for my major. #followreader
Posted by pussreboots at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:40:58 +0000 (msg id: 3434960511)
mutabilis And potential for Libraries to create, not just store is huge re online home schooling. Ipersonal textbooks anyone? #followreader
Posted by Center4Fiction at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:41:11 +0000 (msg id: 3434964462)
@shayera which is true. #followreader
Posted by mciddangelo at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:41:29 +0000 (msg id: 3434969985)
.@kishizuka @shayera what’s the reaction among librarians about Google Book Search? Good? Bad? Indifferent? #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:41:30 +0000 (msg id: 3434970340)
@shayera #followreader yeah, which means there’d be a gap. But it is the closest thing to an online library I’ve seen.
Posted by ReeshaGeppert at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:42:04 +0000 (msg id: 3434980881)
@pussreboots there is less and less library instruction, partly because rules/tech keeps changing. Emph now on point of need. #followreader
Posted by mutabilis at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:42:13 +0000 (msg id: 3434984072)
@kishizuka ditching Dewey in favour of what? #followreader
Posted by jnyrose at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:42:15 +0000 (msg id: 3434984582)
I’m still left wondering what the future holds for libraries. Will the next gen view them as museums? #followreader
Posted by Writing_Is_Fun at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:42:37 +0000 (msg id: 3434991102)
@Center4Fiction Yes! Open digital content is a great op for librarians. SLJ ed Brian Kenny covers this in our Sept editorial. #followreader
Posted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:42:37 +0000 (msg id: 3434991278)
Content is King. It really doesn’t matter what the medium is. People open to print & digital as long as it meets their needs #followreader
Posted by VassilikiVeros at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:42:45 +0000 (msg id: 3434993557)
@jnyrose Ditching Dewey? Hope not. Took me decades to figure it out and now they want something else???? #followreader
Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:43:26 +0000 (msg id: 3435006122)
@KatMeyer We teach students about how to use the library as well. Both my children’s and YA librarians do it. #followreader
Posted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:43:44 +0000 (msg id: 3435011518)
Stupid ?: Any concerns about obsolescence w/ re: to digital content and library budgets? Bound books don’t go out of style #followreader
Posted by buriedbybooks at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:44:25 +0000 (msg id: 3435024313)
@KatMeyer I personally think it’s somewhat interesting. But not a lot of discussion here lately about it otherwise. #followreader
Posted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:44:46 +0000 (msg id: 3435031079)
@jnyrose Dewey alts: Some r considering: http://bit.ly/BISAC also LibraryThing’s Open Shelves. #followreader
Posted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:44:51 +0000 (msg id: 3435032557)
Other big change will be re real estate. If libraries are interactive centers rather than huge storehouses, more #followreader
Posted by Center4Fiction at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:44:56 +0000 (msg id: 3435034116)
@maggiedana Colleges use the library of congress system for their collections. #followreader
Posted by pussreboots at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:44:59 +0000 (msg id: 3435034976)
@maggiedana @jnyrose some public libraries use systems adapted from bookstores instead of Dewey Decimal. DDC seen as a barrier #followreader
Posted by mutabilis at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:45:09 +0000 (msg id: 3435038406)
@kishizuka great movie scene: Parker Posey in “Party Girl” organizing dj boyfriend’s record collect. by dewy decimal system #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:45:11 +0000 (msg id: 3435038844)
@shayera @kishizuka do you think e-books will allow for larger collections? No need to prune if no physical space taken up? #followreader
Posted by jnyrose at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:45:42 +0000 (msg id: 3435048762)
every library I visit has throngs of people reading hard copy as well as using the Internet. libraries are far from over. #followreader
Posted by mciddangelo at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:46:10 +0000 (msg id: 3435057839)
@KatMeyer I’ve done that in my own home. #followreader
Posted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:46:11 +0000 (msg id: 3435058303)
@pussreboots LoC? Probably even more complicated! #followreader
Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:46:22 +0000 (msg id: 3435061605)
@KatMeyer Surprisingly, we haven’t seen much comment or interest in the Google Book issue from our readers. #followreader
Posted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:46:41 +0000 (msg id: 3435067661)
.@shayera @kishizuka am i right to assume that printed books are as popular as ever with students + patrons? #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:46:50 +0000 (msg id: 3435070586)
RT @KatMeyer: .@kishizuka @shayera whats the reaction among librarians about Google Book Search? Good? Bad? Indifferent? #followreader
Posted by Writing_Is_Fun at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:46:57 +0000 (msg id: 3435072748)
Then the actual books int he stacks that are left will be “curated” Librarians will be curators of lit? #followreader
Posted by Center4Fiction at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:46:58 +0000 (msg id: 3435072889)
@mutabilis My library uses the Dewey / Book store hybrid. Fiction is organized like store.. nonfiction is Dewey. #followreader
Posted by pussreboots at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:47:17 +0000 (msg id: 3435078902)
@jnyrose Yes. We can buy computer books, etc in eformat and not have to purchase the paper copy. #followreader
Posted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:47:32 +0000 (msg id: 3435083301)
@KatMeyer Absolutely. My holds shelves are packed. People love their paper. #followreader
Posted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:48:15 +0000 (msg id: 3435096913)
@maggiedana You can learn the numbering system for the subjects you’re most interested in. PN1995a = film scripts. #followreader
Posted by pussreboots at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:48:21 +0000 (msg id: 3435098544)
the days of hard copy may be over before long (kindle, ebooks, adobe, etc) but libraries will endure #followreader
Posted by mciddangelo at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:48:27 +0000 (msg id: 3435100564)
RT @KatMeyer: great movie scene: Parker Posey in “Party Girl” organizing dj boyfriend’s record collect. by dewy decimal system #followreader
Posted by charabbott at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:48:30 +0000 (msg id: 3435101321)
@jnyrose Re: larger collectins: some bks are paid for based on patron access, & lib budgets will need to deal w/new biz model. #followreader
Posted by susanmpls at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:48:36 +0000 (msg id: 3435103130)
@KatMeyer The success of Harry Potter, Twilight demonstrates kids’ enthusiasm. #followreader
Posted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:48:52 +0000 (msg id: 3435108372)
@shayera Technology books make sense as ebooks as the technology changes so rapidly. #followreader
Posted by pussreboots at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:48:54 +0000 (msg id: 3435108751)
@jnyrose this is very true in academic libraries. digital means more access to journals, etc. #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:49:07 +0000 (msg id: 3435112699)
@pussreboots Am committing it to memory. #followreader
Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:49:17 +0000 (msg id: 3435116007)
The best thing, as Anna Quindlen wrote, the kids discovered Harry Potter themselves. Yay, kids. #followreader
Posted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:49:30 +0000 (msg id: 3435119879)
Took grandkids to beach yesterday. !5 yr old grandson brought TWO Kindles to read. One for each eye? #followreader
Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:50:07 +0000 (msg id: 3435131410)
RT @MCidDAngelo the days of hard copy may be over before long (kindle, ebooks, adobe, etc) but libraries will endure #followreader
Posted by TheDebster at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:50:11 +0000 (msg id: 3435132788)
@shayera We are opening a new larger branch for our local library to house more volumes. So yes, people still love paper. #followreader
Posted by pussreboots at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:50:19 +0000 (msg id: 3435135474)
just b/c bks are digital doesn’t mean collections will automatically increase. Libraries still need $ to buy the books. #followreader
Posted by susanmpls at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:50:21 +0000 (msg id: 3435136036)
@buriedbybooks Not a stupid question, I think we’ll see an increase in people using eformats. But paper will still remain. #followreader
Posted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:50:39 +0000 (msg id: 3435141665)
Story about library that did away with Dewey Decimal: http://bit.ly/Urrxc #followreader
Posted by mutabilis at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:50:50 +0000 (msg id: 3435145070)
RT @maggiedana: Took grandkids to beach yesterday. !5 yr old grandson brought TWO Kindles to read. One for each eye? #followreader
Posted by Writing_Is_Fun at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:51:09 +0000 (msg id: 3435151047)
RT Chat going on now at #followreader on libraries and the digital age. Come and join us. (via @maggiedana) (v. Interesting tweets)
Posted by KirkusReviews at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:51:37 +0000 (msg id: 3435159650)
@TheDebster thanks for the RT; libraries will endure because not everyone has access to comps or $ for bookstores #followreader
Posted by mciddangelo at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:51:39 +0000 (msg id: 3435160122)
@pussreboots Exactly. And I think that’s one of the main reasons we do it that way. #followreader
Posted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:51:40 +0000 (msg id: 3435160621)
@maggiedana That is awesome. Maybe he was comparing texts? Love it. #followreader
Posted by jnyrose at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:52:11 +0000 (msg id: 3435170282)
@mutabilis I don’t remember getting any until college. I was surprised when my son had weekly library instruction. #followreader
Posted by pussreboots at Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:52:16 +0000 (msg id: 3435171671)
School lib collections have been shrinking since 04/05 See our May 09 survey, & that’s before the downturn. http://bit.ly/jih5 #followreader
Posted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:52:21 +0000 (msg id: 3435173054)
@KirkusReviews Hi Kirkus. Glad you could join in. #followreader
Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:52:31 +0000 (msg id: 3435176260)
to all librarians here, would you please share what you love most about your work? #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:52:34 +0000 (msg id: 3435177184)
sometimes we authors want to make $ with our works, but we still want to be read. #followreader viva libraries!
Posted by mciddangelo at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:52:46 +0000 (msg id: 3435181000)
@jnyrose All this AND cavorting with a pair of fetching female teens! #followreader
Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:52:55 +0000 (msg id: 3435183790)
@pussreboots You’re so lucky! It’s fantastic to hear about administration that values the paper as well as the digital. #followreader
Posted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:53:08 +0000 (msg id: 3435187646)
@maggiedana ahhh, youth. Brave of them, though, how did the Kindle fair with the sand? #followreader
Posted by jnyrose at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:53:56 +0000 (msg id: 3435202284)
RT @kishizuka: School lib collections have been shrinking since 04/05 & thats before the downturn. http://bit.ly/jih5 #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:54:08 +0000 (msg id: 3435205710)
RT @maggiedana @jnyrose All this AND cavorting with a pair of fetching female teens! #followreader (Now I’m really missing out!)
Posted by pitchparlour at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:54:08 +0000 (msg id: 3435205751)
@mciddangelo Recent surveys reveal sharp increase in library usage. ALA is leveraging this to support lib funding. #followreader
Posted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:54:20 +0000 (msg id: 3435209674)
@shayera My son has a fantastic school. Yes, we are very lucky! #followreader
Posted by pussreboots at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:54:22 +0000 (msg id: 3435210132)
I design and typeset books for a living, so am bit of a grouch when it comes to e-books. #followreader
Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:54:26 +0000 (msg id: 3435211385)
I love helping people make connections with fun/great books and info they need/want. Tiny moment where ur a pt of thr lives. #followreader
Posted by mutabilis at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:54:43 +0000 (msg id: 3435216607)
RT Chat going on now at #followreader on libraries & the digital age. Come and join us. (via @maggiedana) (via @KirkusReviews) v interesting
Posted by TheBookseller at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:54:46 +0000 (msg id: 3435217512)
@jnyrose The Kindles only survived the sand because I kept rescuing them when owner was off cavorting. #followreader
Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:54:54 +0000 (msg id: 3435219908)
@kishizuka that is great news about ALA #followreader
Posted by mciddangelo at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:54:56 +0000 (msg id: 3435220584)
I love identifying what borrowers are really needing and then helping them find it. I love being the smartypants in the room #followreader
Posted by VassilikiVeros at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:55:25 +0000 (msg id: 3435229930)
@kishizuka My son’s library collection has a lot of other school library discards. #followreader
Posted by pussreboots at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:55:31 +0000 (msg id: 3435232005)
@KatMeyer all of us here agree that what we love most is interaction–all the talk about books #followreader
Posted by Center4Fiction at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:55:45 +0000 (msg id: 3435236382)
@KatMeyer schools have also been losing librarians and even physical space for libraries. Not good. #followreader
Posted by jnyrose at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:55:50 +0000 (msg id: 3435237924)
@KatMeyer I love giving someone a book they’ve never heard of and having them come back to me raving about it. #followreader
Posted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:56:10 +0000 (msg id: 3435244409)
We’ve seen huge increases. Homework Help and Summer Reading up over 30% in ONE year. #followreader
Posted by mutabilis at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:56:45 +0000 (msg id: 3435255487)
@maggiedana Yes but information design for the screen is just as important & perhaps a barrier in reading ebooks #followreader
Posted by VassilikiVeros at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:57:08 +0000 (msg id: 3435262189)
RT @jnyrose: @KatMeyer schools have also been losing librarians and even physical space for libraries. #followreader a bureaucratic problem
Posted by mciddangelo at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:57:21 +0000 (msg id: 3435266135)
@shayera I love seeing my son come home with a book his librarian has recommended. They’ve all been fantastic! #followreader
Posted by pussreboots at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:57:35 +0000 (msg id: 3435270502)
is it weird that i’m really really excited @kirkusreviews is on the chat? (i’m like george clooney excited. really.) #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:57:41 +0000 (msg id: 3435272317)
@maggiedana Tactile experience with physical books is important to most readers I know. Not an ebook fan either #followreader
Posted by buriedbybooks at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:58:11 +0000 (msg id: 3435281711)
@VassilikiVeros So far screen design sorely lacking. Reading a Kindle is like reading wet newsprint. #followreader
Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:58:40 +0000 (msg id: 3435290498)
Fantastic! RT @mutabilis We’ve seen huge increases. Homework Help and Summer Reading up over 30% in ONE year. #followreader #followreader
Posted by VassilikiVeros at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:58:41 +0000 (msg id: 3435290686)
Heck yes. RT @VassilikiVeros: @maggiedana information design for screen is as important/perhaps a barrier in reading ebooks #followreader
Posted by jnyrose at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:58:46 +0000 (msg id: 3435292347)
Many schools opened this year in our area with no librarian. Not even an asst. #followreader
Posted by mutabilis at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:58:50 +0000 (msg id: 3435293494)
@Center4Fiction Our need to discuss what we’re reading fuels those online communities. How can adults get kids involved there? #followreader
Posted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:58:56 +0000 (msg id: 3435295233)
@buriedbybooks <—- A Luddite after my own heart. #followreader
Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:59:07 +0000 (msg id: 3435298832)
Providing ebooks and audio to patrons is expensive. Overdrive license is $28,000 a year, not counting cost of books. #followreader
Posted by Center4Fiction at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:59:09 +0000 (msg id: 3435299620)
anyone have recommendations on how we can support public and school libraries? any sites where we can find info? #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:59:52 +0000 (msg id: 3435312712)
Leaving for desk time in teen room. Bye! #followreader
Posted by mutabilis at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:59:52 +0000 (msg id: 3435312750)
@pussreboots A win for everybody. I bet they love to see him coming. #followreader
Posted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:59:55 +0000 (msg id: 3435313824)
(cont from last post) So where does that leave small rural libraries who want to provide digital content? #followreader
Posted by Center4Fiction at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:00:06 +0000 (msg id: 3435317625)
RT @katemessner As an author, I’d be lost w/out my library’s ability/willingness to secure materials thru inter-library loan. #followreader
Posted by suzigurl at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:00:13 +0000 (msg id: 3435320595)
A growing trend – RT @mutabilis: Many schools opened this year in our area with no librarian. Not even an asst. #followreader
Posted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:30:33 +0000 (msg id: 3435327454)
RT @maggiedana: @VassilikiVeros So far screen design sorely lacking. Reading a Kindle is like reading wet newsprint. #followreader
Posted by Writing_Is_Fun at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:00:51 +0000 (msg id: 3435333138)
i live in area + didn’t know this. RT @mutabilis: Many schools opened this year in our area w/no librarian. Not even an asst. #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:00:59 +0000 (msg id: 3435335880)
@maggiedana I’m a book luddite. #followreader
Posted by pussreboots at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:01:02 +0000 (msg id: 3435336867)
@kishizuka We thankfully have a full time librarian and 2 part time assistants at my son’s school. #followreader
Posted by pussreboots at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:01:52 +0000 (msg id: 3435353178)
@Center4Fiction could they band together somehow and share? It seems that e-tech should make books MORE available not less. #followreader
Posted by jnyrose at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:01:58 +0000 (msg id: 3435355020)
Great discussion of libraries in the digital age today at #followreader
Posted by Center4Fiction at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:02:07 +0000 (msg id: 3435358079)
we try to do book fair fundraisers for our school libraries – supporters buy books, put receipts in a bowl, and we give (cont) #followreader
Posted by jennIRL at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:02:08 +0000 (msg id: 3435358200)
@Center4Fiction We’re lucky to have enough $ for normal business hours & access! #followreader
Posted by buriedbybooks at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:02:09 +0000 (msg id: 3435358587)
@maggiedana Too funny… Keep cracking those oneliners and we’ll have to give you a stage & mike #followreader
Posted by Writing_Is_Fun at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:02:09 +0000 (msg id: 3435358751)
@pussreboots @maggiedana Believe me, I am too. I buy an occasional ebook, but I love my paper books. #followreader
Posted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:02:14 +0000 (msg id: 3435360217)
RT @KatMeyer RT @kishizuka: School lib collections have been shrinking since 04/05 & thats b4 the downturn. http://bit.ly/jih5 #followreader
Posted by Raul_Ramos at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:02:16 +0000 (msg id: 3435360871)
How to support public & school libraries – borrow more books. Councils look at our loans & memberships as basis for funding #followreader
Posted by VassilikiVeros at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:02:20 +0000 (msg id: 3435361960)
@shayera I have sent thank you notes with my son to give to the librarian. I’ve never had the pleasure of meeting in person. #followreader
Posted by pussreboots at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:02:35 +0000 (msg id: 3435366567)
it’s 5pm EST. just a heads up. ur more than welcome 2 stay+ chat. i’ll post summary Mon. at http://www.followthereader.wordpress.com #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:02:41 +0000 (msg id: 3435368547)
(cont) a % in store credit back to the school library #followreader
Posted by jennIRL at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:02:48 +0000 (msg id: 3435370716)
@KatMeyer ALA’s Wash office for PL support. K-12: Educate your district/state about the importance of school libraries. #followreader
Posted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:03:12 +0000 (msg id: 3435378150)
<— Bowing and blushing @Writing_Is_Fun #followreader
Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:03:26 +0000 (msg id: 3435382686)
@Center4Fiction Such a tough questions. Maybe a partnership w/ nearby communities? #followreader
Posted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:03:40 +0000 (msg id: 3435387105)
@pussreboots I bet they appreciated it though. #followreader
Posted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:04:15 +0000 (msg id: 3435397924)
@kishizuka To get kids involved in online book talk, I create discussion forums on Moodle for our literature circles choices. #followreader
Posted by KateMessner at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:04:22 +0000 (msg id: 3435400305)
@shayera I just got through figuring out papyrus … and now it’s all about e-books. I’ll never catch up. #followreader
Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:04:27 +0000 (msg id: 3435401993)
@maggiedana Bought Twilight as an e-book experiment. It was fine, but not something I would choose to revisit. #followreader
Posted by pitchparlour at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:05:06 +0000 (msg id: 3435413580)
RT @Center4Fiction: Providing ebooks+ audio 2 patrons is expensive.Overdrive license is $28,000/yr, not counting cost of books #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:05:17 +0000 (msg id: 3435417321)
@pitchparlour The book or the technology? #followreader
Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:05:34 +0000 (msg id: 3435422713)
RT @VassilikiVeros: To support libraries – borrow more books. Councils look at loans & memberships as basis for funding #followreader
Posted by Writing_Is_Fun at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:05:36 +0000 (msg id: 3435423094)
Can’t disagree: RT @maggiedana So far screen design sorely lacking. Reading a Kindle is like reading wet newsprint. #followreader
Posted by iron_mum at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:06:01 +0000 (msg id: 3435430557)
Can’t disagree: RT @maggiedana So far screen design sorely lacking. Reading a Kindle is like reading wet newsprint. #followreader
Posted by bookstothesky at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:06:17 +0000 (msg id: 3435435700)
before i forget – thank you so much @kishizuka + @shayera for joining us and for all the great information. #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:06:27 +0000 (msg id: 3435438989)
@jennIRL On a very local level – you, er, we parents have enormous power. Make your voices heard. Libraries: leverage this. #followreader
Posted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:06:47 +0000 (msg id: 3435444964)
THANKS from me, too. RT @KatMeyer: Thank you so much @kishizuka + @shayera for joining us and for all the great information. #followreader
Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:07:23 +0000 (msg id: 3435455927)
having technical probs following this but it looks interesting #followreader
Posted by rebeccawoodhead at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:07:28 +0000 (msg id: 3435457628)
and, any librarians (and others) who have more to add, please do – I’ll post the summary on Monday. Great conversation. thanku #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:07:33 +0000 (msg id: 3435459112)
thanks @kishizuka and @shayera for the great #followreader and @maggiedana for all the one-liners . (and @KatMeyer too!) #followreader
Posted by jnyrose at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:07:57 +0000 (msg id: 3435466285)
@maggiedana Good question. Probably both. And it save me five pounds. Am I a bad person? #followreader
Posted by pitchparlour at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:08:02 +0000 (msg id: 3435467856)
Thanks, @KatMeyer @kishizuka @shayera – for a great discussion on libraries & the digital age! #followreader
Posted by KateMessner at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:08:04 +0000 (msg id: 3435468499)
@rebeccawoodhead Uh, oh … are the gremlins after you? #followreader
Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:08:23 +0000 (msg id: 3435474141)
@KatMeyer Holt smokes was that fun! Thanks for all the really interesting questions! #followreader
Posted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:08:30 +0000 (msg id: 3435476307)
@kishizuka @jennIRL couldn’t agree more. Parental ire and uproar saved our librarian. #followreader
Posted by jnyrose at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:08:43 +0000 (msg id: 3435480229)
@KatMeyer Thanks for hosting another great event & thanks to @kishizuka & @shayera #followreader
Posted by Writing_Is_Fun at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:08:50 +0000 (msg id: 3435482244)
@KatMeyer @kishizuka @shayera Thank you! Well worth waking up at 5 to take part! #followreader
Posted by VassilikiVeros at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:08:50 +0000 (msg id: 3435482511)
<— smacking —> @pitchparlour YES, a very bad person. #followreader
Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:08:53 +0000 (msg id: 3435483282)
@KatMeyer Holy smokes was that fun! Thanks for all the really interesting questions! #followreader
Posted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:09:05 +0000 (msg id: 3435486758)
looks like I missed #followreader Harumph. Right place, wrong time as ever
Posted by agnieszkasshoes at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:09:50 +0000 (msg id: 3435500408)
—> @VassilikiVeros is candidate for sainthood for getting up before dawn. #followreader
Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:09:52 +0000 (msg id: 3435500822)
Thanks for a fantastic discussion. Sorry I missed the first half. #followreader
Posted by pussreboots at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:10:18 +0000 (msg id: 3435509020)
—> @agnieszkasshoes is naughty boy for missing #followreader. Let’s give him lines. #followreader
Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:10:41 +0000 (msg id: 3435516403)
I’ll gather up links to resources 4supporting local and school libraries for the summary post. pls share any u come across! #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:10:45 +0000 (msg id: 3435517830)
Well… back to work #followreader
Posted by Writing_Is_Fun at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:11:41 +0000 (msg id: 3435535075)
@KatMeyer Feel free to delete my inane posts in your summary. #followreader
Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:11:47 +0000 (msg id: 3435536811)
finally caught up just as it ended 
Wanted to make a point about e-reading devices being a barrier to access unless free #followreader
Posted by rebeccawoodhead at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:12:21 +0000 (msg id: 3435547060)
Thank you, @ KatMeyer @Shayera and everyone. This has been fun. #followreader
Posted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:13:13 +0000 (msg id: 3435563484)
@maggiedana I wanted to see what the hype was about. Read Twilight, bought the others (paperback) – disappointed. #followreader
Posted by pitchparlour at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:13:24 +0000 (msg id: 3435567420)
Thank you, @ KatMeyer and everyone. This has been fun. #followreader
Posted by gnarfke at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:13:25 +0000 (msg id: 3435567631)
I think UK libraries may be a step behind. Maybe US libraries already have this covered. Imp thing is for info to b free 2 all #followreader
Posted by rebeccawoodhead at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:13:25 +0000 (msg id: 3435567758)
RT @KatMeyer: to all librarians here, would you please share what you love most about your work? #followreader
Posted by CarinBerger at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:13:57 +0000 (msg id: 3435577267)
@rebeccawoodhead UK libraries PAY authors each time book is checked out. US libraries do not. Which one is ahead? #followreader
Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:14:26 +0000 (msg id: 3435586450)
@maggiedana you’re kidding? No PLR in US? Wowsers. #followreader
Posted by rebeccawoodhead at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:15:37 +0000 (msg id: 3435608970)
Have folks seen? Growth of ebooks in libraries, an IFLA report. http://bit.ly/3kTBO9 #followreader
Posted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:15:55 +0000 (msg id: 3435614295)
Let me rephrase that: UK authors earn royalties each time book is checked out of library; authors in US do not. #followreader
Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:16:05 +0000 (msg id: 3435617196)
@maggiedana REALLY? How does that work? Libs pay to buy the book, and then again as loaned? Or do pubs donate initially? #followreader
Posted by BenRubinstein at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:16:15 +0000 (msg id: 3435620308)
@maggiedana @rebeccawoodhead Australia has PLR too – great for authors #followreader
Posted by VassilikiVeros at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:16:26 +0000 (msg id: 3435623594)
@VassilikiVeros Pls explain PLR for US viewers. An alien concept, I’m afraid. #followreader
Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:17:20 +0000 (msg id: 3435640427)
@BenRubinstein the government pays it. Royalties to authors when books are taken out. Can’t claim retrospectively though #followreader
Posted by rebeccawoodhead at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:17:35 +0000 (msg id: 3435644987)
@maggiedana I’m on it Authors have to register for PLR – not everyone knows about it. Curious whether it applies 2 US in UK #followreader
Posted by rebeccawoodhead at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:18:23 +0000 (msg id: 3435659581)
@BenRubinstein Here is how it works in Australia #followreader http://tinyurl.com/nzv82y
Posted by VassilikiVeros at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:18:23 +0000 (msg id: 3435659598)
@maggiedana That’s a really fascinating idea, I have to say. #followreader
Posted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:18:31 +0000 (msg id: 3435662099)
@rebeccawoodhead Government? Paying authors via libraries? Republicans would HATE this. #followreader
Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:18:36 +0000 (msg id: 3435663506)
#followreader 2 branches by me have little to offer. use them only for rtrns & p/up of bks i’ve rqsted online.
Posted by latta at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:18:39 +0000 (msg id: 3435664623)
@rebeccawoodhead i.e. if you’re a US writer and your books are published here, can you get money off our gov 4 library action #followreader
Posted by rebeccawoodhead at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:19:19 +0000 (msg id: 3435676569)
@rebeccawoodhead I’m a UK citizen, but not a resident; get nothing when my book is checked out of UK library. Sadly. #followreader
Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:20:08 +0000 (msg id: 3435691154)
RT @agnieszkasshoes: looks like I missed #followreader Harumph. Right place, wrong time as ever
Posted by EZF_TopAuthors at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:20:08 +0000 (msg id: 3435691161)
@shayera I thought it happened everywhere. Explains the silence when I asked a US writer just pub’d here if they’d registered #followreader
Posted by rebeccawoodhead at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:20:50 +0000 (msg id: 3435704332)
@maggiedana oh. Do you have to be UK resident to take advantage of it? #followreader
Posted by rebeccawoodhead at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:21:27 +0000 (msg id: 3435715974)
@rebeccawoodhead Yes. You need to be resident, and I’m not. #followreader
Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:22:16 +0000 (msg id: 3435730939)
great survey on ebooks in libraries RT @kishizuka: …Growth of ebooks in libraries, an IFLA report. http://bit.ly/3kTBO9 #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:22:20 +0000 (msg id: 3435731888)
RT @KateMessner Thanks, @KatMeyer @kishizuka @shayera – for a great discussion on libraries & the digital age! #followreader
Posted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:22:24 +0000 (msg id: 3435733057)
lots of UK authors don’t know about it.The person most taken out of libraries last yr didn’t. They wouldn’t let him claim back #followreader
Posted by rebeccawoodhead at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:22:39 +0000 (msg id: 3435737689)
@EZF_TopAuthors i’ll post summary on monday (u can still add comments/questions – many of us still online + chatting) #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:23:08 +0000 (msg id: 3435746298)
@rebeccawoodhead Libraries in US are funded locally, not by g’ment. So no way of making PLR work here. #followreader
Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:23:19 +0000 (msg id: 3435749771)
PLR -authors paid for each copy of their book held in a public lib- only available 4 Aust authors #followreader http://tinyurl.com/mqd8sz
Posted by VassilikiVeros at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:23:42 +0000 (msg id: 3435756446)
i’m still here, but in and out. thanks again all. #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:23:47 +0000 (msg id: 3435757795)
@maggiedana shame. Still – you’ve got Kindle and we haven’t so ‘swings and roundabouts’ #followreader
Posted by rebeccawoodhead at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:24:12 +0000 (msg id: 3435765414)
@rebeccawoodhead My editor at Macmillan emails his authors periodically to remind them to register for PLR. #followreader
Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:24:29 +0000 (msg id: 3435770490)
@rebeccawoodhead You can HAVE bloody Kindle in return for my PLR. #followreader
Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:24:56 +0000 (msg id: 3435778618)
Am wondering if this back and forth about PRL will help shed light in darker corners of globe? #followreader
Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:26:00 +0000 (msg id: 3435797844)
@rebeccawoodhead Doesn’t that seem odd? The book was already purchased, why pay again? #followreader
Posted by BenRubinstein at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:26:04 +0000 (msg id: 3435799000)
@BenRubinstein In UK, the g’ment helps to encourage/support authors via PLR. Sadly, this doesn’t happen in US. #followreader
Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:27:36 +0000 (msg id: 3435827123)
@BenRubinstein odd? No. Delicious Means you can be a writer and still encourage peeps to use libraries #followreader
Posted by rebeccawoodhead at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:28:05 +0000 (msg id: 3435835813)
@BenRubinstein It’s payment for missed sales. If 100 copies of book are in libraries x 20 loans each = 2000 lost sales #followreader
Posted by VassilikiVeros at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:29:07 +0000 (msg id: 3435854516)
@maggiedana your editor sounds fab Much of the time it’s left up to luck whether the author’s done their research or not #followreader
Posted by rebeccawoodhead at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:29:21 +0000 (msg id: 3435858744)
@VassilikiVeros good point #followreader
Posted by rebeccawoodhead at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:29:46 +0000 (msg id: 3435866534)
@rebeccawoodhead My editor is awesome, and the best thing is, he doesn’t even know it. A truly fabulous guy. #followreader
Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:31:11 +0000 (msg id: 3435893501)
@VassilikiVeros That’s an excellent explanation and one worth repeating in the Luddite US. #followreader
Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:32:37 +0000 (msg id: 3435919972)
@maggiedana Showing off now 
Don’t start a fisticuffs with the unpublished – we’re vicious when baited, lol! #followreader
Posted by rebeccawoodhead at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:33:10 +0000 (msg id: 3435930010)
right, I’m leaving tweetchat now but thanks so much for a lovely and interesting chat. Sorry I missed so much. #followreader
Posted by rebeccawoodhead at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:34:11 +0000 (msg id: 3435948357)
I can download online in Houston. RT @chriswebb Do I have to physically visit a library branch to for their digital offerings? #followreader
Posted by DashBook at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:34:21 +0000 (msg id: 3435951452)
RT @CarinBerger: RT @KatMeyer: to all librarians here, would you please share what you love most about your work? #followreader
Posted by EZF_TopAuthors at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:35:14 +0000 (msg id: 3435967854)
RT @Writing_Is_Fun: RT @VassilikiVeros: To support libraries – borrow more bks. Councils look at loans & m/ships when funding #followreader
Posted by inkwellHQ at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:36:24 +0000 (msg id: 3435989310)
@rebeccawoodhead Don’t shortchange yourself, MS. UK TWITTER!! I’m in awe of your accomplishments. Proud to know you, so there. #followreader
Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:36:44 +0000 (msg id: 3435995531)
Really? We’re being robbed! RT @maggiedana UK authors earn royalties ea. time book checked out of library; not authors in US #followreader
Posted by SRussellWrites at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:37:49 +0000 (msg id: 3436015411)
@VassilikiVeros Actually, 100 copies x 20 loans each = 1900 lost sales — library bought those 100 copies! #followreader
Posted by castironowl at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:38:09 +0000 (msg id: 3436021557)
@maggiedana feeling’s mutual #followreader
Posted by rebeccawoodhead at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:38:53 +0000 (msg id: 3436034703)
@SRussellWrites Yes, we’re being robbed, but I doubt anyone cares. #followreader
Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:39:35 +0000 (msg id: 3436047445)
@castironowl Ooops! Please recalculate! #followreader
Posted by VassilikiVeros at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:40:05 +0000 (msg id: 3436056195)
@rebeccawoodhead Awe, thanks. Have a good night and keep me posted on Ms. Twitter EUROPE !!!! #followreader
Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:40:16 +0000 (msg id: 3436059762)
And might not all be lost sales. If I like book I checked out, I buy it. If I didn’t read in library, still wouldn’t buy new. #followreader
Posted by castironowl at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:42:03 +0000 (msg id: 3436092496)
@maggiedana How much more are you willing to pay in taxes so your library can pay author royalties? #followreader
Posted by castironowl at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:45:03 +0000 (msg id: 3436146534)
@maggiedana I like the idea of paying author royalties on library checkouts, but in U.S. don’t see it being feasible #followreader
Posted by castironowl at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:45:58 +0000 (msg id: 3436164404)
@maggiedana #followreader Pulled out of Euro comp and set up http://WordNerdArmy.blogspot.com instead.Ms Twitter got me Booktrust gig tho
Posted by rebeccawoodhead at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:49:55 +0000 (msg id: 3436236409)
@VassilikiVeros Of course, MMPBs in bad shape after 20 chkouts, so if lib replaces, 20 loans might still = only 19 lost sales! #followreader
Posted by castironowl at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:51:39 +0000 (msg id: 3436268868)
RT @KateMessner As an author, I’d be lost w/out my library’s ability/willingness to secure materials through interlibrary loan #followreader
Posted by bookwit at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:53:57 +0000 (msg id: 3436311095)
Please host another! Couldn’t make it today. RT@kishizuka: Thank you, @ KatMeyer @Shayera and everyone. This has been fun. #followreader
Posted by AyodeleOjumu at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:54:00 +0000 (msg id: 3436311760)
Neat idea: library use value calculator from Maine State Library: http://bit.ly/10GnQd (#followreader)Posted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:57:47 +0000 (msg id: 3434154136)
RT @KatMeyer: #followreader starting at 4pm EST. if u r joining us, consider using http://tweetchat.com/ to participate #followreaderPosted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:59:07 +0000 (msg id: 3434178875)
Hi! Welcome special guests @kishizuka and @shayera. libraries braving the digital age is the topic today. #followreaderPosted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:01:14 +0000 (msg id: 3434219894)
RT @KatMeyer: #followreader starting at 4pm EST. if u r joining us, consider using http://tweetchat.com/ to participate #followreaderPosted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:02:21 +0000 (msg id: 3434240905)
Tune in! RT @KatMeyer: Welcome special guests @kishizuka and @shayera. libraries braving the digital age is the topic today. #followreaderPosted by DSloanandco at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:02:47 +0000 (msg id: 3434249105)
Looking forward to the discussion. Any school librarians, media specialists out there? #followreaderPosted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:03:32 +0000 (msg id: 3434263123)
Great #followreader topic today! RT @KatMeyer: Welcome special guests @kishizuka & @shayera -libraries braving the digital age #followreaderPosted by KateMessner at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:03:52 +0000 (msg id: 3434269365)
Hi. Looking forward to today’s discussion. #followreaderPosted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:04:09 +0000 (msg id: 3434274898)
My first question for our guests, has the role of the library changed – or just the way services are delivered? #followreaderPosted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:04:54 +0000 (msg id: 3434289055)
reminder: today we’re talking about libraries and librarians in the digital age. Please share your questions and thoughts. #followreaderPosted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:05:47 +0000 (msg id: 3434306011)
How will digital books work in a library? Loan out readers w/books? Guess that’s a DRM question… #followreaderPosted by JennWebb at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:06:36 +0000 (msg id: 3434320827)
How does a library today get students to use library, rather than the “just Google-it” mentality? #followreader #followreaderPosted by chuckmartin1 at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:07:02 +0000 (msg id: 3434328618)
@KatMeyer I think we’ve evolved into being less research centers and more community centers. Yes, delivery methods change too #followreaderPosted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:07:14 +0000 (msg id: 3434332144)
I think part of the “delivery of services” in a school setting is much more involved than just that, delivering content. #followreaderPosted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:07:42 +0000 (msg id: 3434340554)
@KatMeyer RE: Role of library changed…changed from what? PLZ provide frame of reference. #followreaderPosted by bsandusky at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:07:46 +0000 (msg id: 3434341963)
@chuckmartin1 I believe that some area libraries are booming with young people. #followreaderPosted by mciddangelo at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:09:07 +0000 (msg id: 3434366626)
Do you think there will be more chances to use libraries as a “world” resource? (check out e-books no matter where you are?) #followreaderPosted by jnyrose at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:09:19 +0000 (msg id: 3434370281)
@JennWebb Libraries have loaned ebooks for years. We (LAPL) doesn’t loan ereaders, but patrons can upload to ones they own. #followreaderPosted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:09:54 +0000 (msg id: 3434380780)
On the school side, it involves information literacy, which includes the critical evaluation of sources. #followreaderPosted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:10:03 +0000 (msg id: 3434383636)
@kishizuka But that’s true in public libraries as well. We can’t let students go out with incorrect data, materials, etc. #followreaderPosted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:12:01 +0000 (msg id: 3434420332)
eg: digi universal library card?RT @jnyrose: Do you think there will be more chances to use libraries as a “world” resource? #followreaderPosted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:12:03 +0000 (msg id: 3434421158)
@jnyrose You pretty much already can, as long as you have a valid card for the system in question. #followreaderPosted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:13:30 +0000 (msg id: 3434449418)
.@shayera – do patrons seek out digital content? how are public libraries letting patrons know about new offerings +services? #followreaderPosted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:14:15 +0000 (msg id: 3434463094)
World Cat already gives opportunity to find books anywhere in the world #followreader http://tinyurl.com/r9azrPosted by VassilikiVeros at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:14:49 +0000 (msg id: 3434473509)
I know new technologies have make me think a lot about what a library *is*, and what newly powerful areas exist, possibilities #followreaderPosted by mutabilis at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:15:01 +0000 (msg id: 3434477441)
@shayera @JennWebb ebooks’ in schools is evolving. Joyce Valenza only recently created this resource: http://bit.ly/JMBOe #followreaderPosted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:15:15 +0000 (msg id: 3434482111)
.@kishizuka + in school libraries, do students seek out/expect digital media offerings? #followreaderPosted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:15:19 +0000 (msg id: 3434483327)
bear with us, even tweetchat is slow in refreshing — there’s a bit of delay on my side. #followreaderPosted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:15:58 +0000 (msg id: 3434495683)
Currently, I seek out e-books only from libraries. Unwilling to buy them b/c of DRM. #followreaderPosted by jnyrose at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:16:10 +0000 (msg id: 3434499372)
@shayera But how is it a loan? If I go to the library, put a book on Stanza on my iPhone, how does the library take it back? #followreaderPosted by JennWebb at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:16:13 +0000 (msg id: 3434500438)
One thing working against a universal card is that most American libraries are supported with local funding. #followreaderPosted by mutabilis at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:16:30 +0000 (msg id: 3434505979)
RT @KatMeyer: Neat idea: library use value calculator … what’s yr library card worth$$ to you? http://bit.ly/10GnQd (#followreader)Posted by gtoppo at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:16:34 +0000 (msg id: 3434507060)
@KatMeyer Am relieved #followreader has not migrated to FriendFeed, a most perplexing interface. #followreaderPosted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:16:57 +0000 (msg id: 3434514044)
@kishizuka @shayera Is it realistic 2 bleve *everything* will b all digital soon? if so, when? seems weve hrd that 4 years. #followreaderPosted by belsito at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:17:06 +0000 (msg id: 3434516933)
@shayera @kishizuka what do you see as the brightest opportunity for librairies? & the biggest threat? #followreaderPosted by Writing_Is_Fun at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:17:21 +0000 (msg id: 3434521405)
It can be frustrating sometimes that people assume we’re behind the times as far as e-content. They’re always surprised. #followreaderPosted by mutabilis at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:17:34 +0000 (msg id: 3434525568)
@JennWebb The file has an expiry date, it locks itself and you can’t access it after the loan period. #followreaderPosted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:17:48 +0000 (msg id: 3434529876)
Libraries have been providing ref & research digitally for yrs.Now moving to providing digital access for recreational reading #followreaderPosted by VassilikiVeros at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:17:58 +0000 (msg id: 3434532828)
@Writing_Is_Fun The biggest threat? Lack of funds. #followreaderPosted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:19:02 +0000 (msg id: 3434552923)
@belsito No, I don’t think everything will be available digitally. Humans have a pretty steep learning curve. #followreaderPosted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:19:04 +0000 (msg id: 3434553324)
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@belsito It’s something we talked about a lot when I was in Library School. And it hasn’t changed in the past decade, I think. #followreaderPosted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:19:42 +0000 (msg id: 3434564997)
Digital is the way to go for language-learning programs — perfect thing to borrow from library! #followreaderPosted by BenRubinstein at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:19:59 +0000 (msg id: 3434570340)
@Writing_Is_Fun The greatest op? From the school side, for libraries to take charge from an information literacy standpoint. #followreaderPosted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:20:17 +0000 (msg id: 3434576164)
@kishizuka Lack of funds, but also lack of standards and absence of some extremely popular books. #followreaderPosted by mutabilis at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:20:24 +0000 (msg id: 3434578474)
@shayera You need to call my public library and tell them about that feature! Thank you. Had no idea. #followreaderPosted by JennWebb at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:20:24 +0000 (msg id: 3434578479)
@Writing_Is_Fun In public libraries, I think the biggest threats are lack of funds and support. #followreaderPosted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:20:39 +0000 (msg id: 3434583146)
@shayera Do you mean support from patrons? #followreaderPosted by Writing_Is_Fun at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:21:26 +0000 (msg id: 3434597654)
@kishizuka @shayera no kidding. Talk about somehow squeezing a dime to fund a dollar worth of services. #followreaderPosted by jnyrose at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:21:59 +0000 (msg id: 3434607724)
thank u @writing_is_fun – these are great questions! #followreaderPosted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:22:05 +0000 (msg id: 3434609733)
@mutabilis Yes, standards, hardware costs/support and in K-12 – filtering (w/ etextbooks) #followreaderPosted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:22:41 +0000 (msg id: 3434620426)
@Writing_Is_Fun Actually, I meant more from the Mayor, City Council. But having a supportive Friends group is pretty great. #followreaderPosted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:23:26 +0000 (msg id: 3434633929)
One threat with digital content is that you lose the face2face contact, and risk that ppl will have less of a stake in lib’y. #followreaderPosted by mutabilis at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:23:40 +0000 (msg id: 3434638159)
@shayera what types of publicity catch your eye RE new books? Which mediums have the biggest impact your decisions? #followreaderPosted by rustyshelton at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:23:44 +0000 (msg id: 3434639188)
@rustyshelton I have to admit that I don’t have any input in purchasing digital material for our system. I’m a branch manager. #followreaderPosted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:24:43 +0000 (msg id: 3434656881)
@shayera + @kishizuka, as readers/patrons – what service/offering of libraries do you most use and appreciate it? #followreaderPosted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:24:57 +0000 (msg id: 3434661090)
Most libraries in our area have zero digital content available. Barely offer internet service #followreaderPosted by buriedbybooks at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:25:00 +0000 (msg id: 3434662034)
#followreader In digital age, access isn’t probelm–discovery & filtering is. I’d like to see libaries helping me choose what to access.Posted by susanmpls at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:25:07 +0000 (msg id: 3434664132)
@KirkusReviews Chat going on now at #followreader on libraries and the digital age. Come and join us.Posted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:25:07 +0000 (msg id: 3434664278)
@rustyshelton But, having said that, I do go to BookExpo every year and I make sure to keep an eye on the digital side. #followreaderPosted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:25:29 +0000 (msg id: 3434670857)
Mine, too. RT @buriedbybooks: Most libraries in our area have zero digital content available. Barely offer internet service. #followreaderPosted by JennWebb at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:25:56 +0000 (msg id: 3434678957)
@susanmpls Totally agree, Susan. I love to browse among real books to find what I want. #followreaderPosted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:26:31 +0000 (msg id: 3434689387)
@KatMeyer Hmm, do kids expect digital services? There’s a divide between what’s avail in school and what they use in life. #followreaderPosted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:26:39 +0000 (msg id: 3434691899)
@susanmpls Libraries do this.I believe you need to shop around for librarian that suits your needs just like finding a doctor #followreaderPosted by VassilikiVeros at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:26:41 +0000 (msg id: 3434692562)
So many libraries are trying to learn how to be more “human” online, so as to retain what is so satisfactory about face2face. #followreaderPosted by mutabilis at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:26:54 +0000 (msg id: 3434696296)
@kishizuka @shayera What are some recent technologies/products that are resonating most with K-12 kids? #followreaderPosted by belsito at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:26:54 +0000 (msg id: 3434696475)
I think that libraries can and will compete in the digital age by becoming increasingly versatile in their mission. #followreaderPosted by mciddangelo at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:27:15 +0000 (msg id: 3434702949)
As an author, I’d be lost w/out my library’s ability/willingness to secure materials through inter-library loan. #followreader #followreaderPosted by KateMessner at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:27:19 +0000 (msg id: 3434704114)
Do I have to physically visit a library branch to take advantage of their digital offerings? #followreaderPosted by chriswebb at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:27:48 +0000 (msg id: 3434712943)
.@shayera what service/offering do you think goes most underused by patrons? @kishizuka – what about school libraries? #followreaderPosted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:27:56 +0000 (msg id: 3434715313)
@susanmpls #followreader. That is a great idea. Went to the library this am and was thinking (more vaguely) along the same lines.Posted by bigalicenyc at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:27:59 +0000 (msg id: 3434716446)
@VassilikiVeros Ha, I like that idea. Shopping for librarian like shopping for doctor. But goodreads.com helps too #followreaderPosted by BenRubinstein at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:28:04 +0000 (msg id: 3434718022)
@kishizuka libraries often the only chance for my low-income students to use digital services. Nowhere else to learn how. #followreaderPosted by jnyrose at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:28:08 +0000 (msg id: 3434719134)
@KatMeyer I’ve been using the emusic and evideo quite a lot. It’s a great way to find older, less known movies and music. #followreaderPosted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:28:10 +0000 (msg id: 3434719750)
RT @mutabilis: So many libraries are trying to learn how to be more “human” online,retain face2face. #followreaderPosted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:28:46 +0000 (msg id: 3434731432)
@VassilikiVeros The rhetoric I hear coming from libraries is about more & more content. I want to hear more about filters. #followreaderPosted by susanmpls at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:29:06 +0000 (msg id: 3434737460)
Live in Kindle dead zone. eBooks not a big thing out here. #followreaderPosted by buriedbybooks at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:29:11 +0000 (msg id: 3434739013)
@BenRubinstein GoodReads is amazing. Made my preteen a reader. I bow at their feet. #followreaderPosted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:29:34 +0000 (msg id: 3434745698)
@kishizuka There’s a HUGE gap btwn. kids’ school and real life tech use. We’re discussing in my district now. #followreader #followreaderPosted by KateMessner at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:30:07 +0000 (msg id: 3434756269)
@belsito I’m surprised by the number who are very comfortable w/ ebooks. They can bypass long wait lists. #followreaderPosted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:30:14 +0000 (msg id: 3434759071)
RT @shayera: @KatMeyer Ive been using emusic +evideo quite a lot. Its a great way to find older, less known movies and music. #followreaderPosted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:30:37 +0000 (msg id: 3434765823)
@chriswebb Nope, not as long as you have a valid library card. #followreaderPosted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:30:49 +0000 (msg id: 3434770375)
Funding, hardware, software, tech support real impediments to digital offerings. #followreaderPosted by buriedbybooks at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:31:04 +0000 (msg id: 3434774951)
#followreader Libraries in my area have good internet access, but no digital loans. I’ve never seen anyone w/ an eReader, so not surprised.Posted by ChristFocus at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:31:10 +0000 (msg id: 3434777002)
@chriswebb Most libraries, public and school, have online portals. Here’s a cool one for teens http://www.bighouselibrary.com/ #followreaderPosted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:31:19 +0000 (msg id: 3434779968)
All issues we’ve been thinking about a lot as we change from the Mercantile Library to the Center for Fiction this fall.#followreaderPosted by Center4Fiction at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:31:37 +0000 (msg id: 3434785704)
@susanmpls I think that libs need to work on the filtering too. It’s about managing your information #followreaderPosted by VassilikiVeros at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:31:44 +0000 (msg id: 3434788150)
I borrowed e-reader from my library, a flimsy thing that didn’t work. #followreaderPosted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:32:04 +0000 (msg id: 3434794437)
@shayera Do you have an online service for borrowing ebooks? #followreaderPosted by Writing_Is_Fun at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:32:05 +0000 (msg id: 3434794602)
RT @kishizuka: …online portals. Heres a cool one for teens http://www.bighouselibrary.com/ #followreaderPosted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:32:18 +0000 (msg id: 3434798936)
FWIW, my public library system offers live online chat w/librarian, remote lending of ebks, online tools to find/reserve bks #followreaderPosted by susanmpls at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:32:20 +0000 (msg id: 3434799300)
I, too, love to browse among real books to find what I want. I just love being surrounded by books. #followreaderPosted by GenreReviewer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:32:29 +0000 (msg id: 3434802313)
We’re just starting an initiative to recruit/teach local teens for creation of content for the TeenZone of website. #followreaderPosted by mutabilis at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:33:01 +0000 (msg id: 3434811718)
@maggiedana What type of reader did they loan out? How did the process work? You choose ebook…they load and loan? #followreaderPosted by belsito at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:33:08 +0000 (msg id: 3434814181)
True. RT @GenreReviewer: I, too, love to browse among real books to find what I want. I just love being surrounded by books. #followreaderPosted by jnyrose at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:33:21 +0000 (msg id: 3434818281)
@KatMeyer Some of the databases we subscribe to are really fantastic, but ignored/missed/ #followreaderPosted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:33:23 +0000 (msg id: 3434818785)
@KateMessner Yes, ILL is an amazing service. Wonder how many young people use it? #followreaderPosted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:33:38 +0000 (msg id: 3434823299)
@belsito Book already on e-reader. Can’t remember brand. I imagine they take a beating and are cheaply made. #followreaderPosted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:34:01 +0000 (msg id: 3434830396)
Notice huge disparity between urban and rural libraries on digital access and focus #followreaderPosted by buriedbybooks at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:34:17 +0000 (msg id: 3434835113)
Libraries have always been comm cntrs, but more so now than ever. Means more guys surfing porn, but also more book groups,etc. #followreaderPosted by Center4Fiction at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:34:17 +0000 (msg id: 3434835235)
@kishizuka I teach my students about ILL – in 7th grade, most of them are STUNNED that a library will do this, and for free! #followreaderPosted by KateMessner at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:34:35 +0000 (msg id: 3434840870)
.@kishizuka @shayera – do libraries feel pressured that they are being asked to do too much – offer everything to everyone? #followreaderPosted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:34:41 +0000 (msg id: 3434842915)
There is something about finding a book through serendipity which is slightly harder to re-create when you browse websites #followreaderPosted by VassilikiVeros at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:34:43 +0000 (msg id: 3434843538)
A big problem in K-12: RT @shayera: @KatMeyer Some of the databases we subscribe to are really fantastic, but ignored/missed/ #followreaderPosted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:34:54 +0000 (msg id: 3434846900)
I seriously doubt a loanable e-reader is as sturdy or long-lived as a casebound book. #followreaderPosted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:35:01 +0000 (msg id: 3434849211)
As you don’t have 2 visit the library 2 get electronic offerings, do you feel might jeopardize funding for physical buildings? #followreaderPosted by JenniferWeltz at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:35:18 +0000 (msg id: 3434854641)
??Can we really recreate that sense of community and talk about books in the virtual library? #followreaderPosted by Center4Fiction at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:35:25 +0000 (msg id: 3434856770)
#followreader does anyone think Gutenberg project is the new online library and physical libraries role is to continue with hard copy?Posted by ReeshaGeppert at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:35:33 +0000 (msg id: 3434859036)
How are people using ‘filtering’ here? Do you mean filters for safer web, or filters in sense of selection/advice? #followreaderPosted by mutabilis at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:35:40 +0000 (msg id: 3434861330)
@Writing_Is_Fun LAPL uses Overdrive: http://tinyurl.com/lgdztz #followreaderPosted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:36:02 +0000 (msg id: 3434868364)
Keep me posted -RT @mutabilis: starting an initiative to recruit/teach local teens to create content for TeenZone of website. #followreaderPosted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:36:05 +0000 (msg id: 3434869142)
In NSW, Aust disparity between urban and rural libraries on digital access is smaller due to State Lib purchasing cooperative #followreaderPosted by VassilikiVeros at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:36:09 +0000 (msg id: 3434870684)
@Center4Fiction What’s the etiquette when you see a guy surfing porn at library? Excommunication? #followreaderPosted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:36:15 +0000 (msg id: 3434872356)
@KatMeyer #followreader I like your question. Anyone?Posted by ReeshaGeppert at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:36:27 +0000 (msg id: 3434876465)
.@kishizuka do most k-12 schools teach kids how to use libraries? (they did when i was little) #followreaderPosted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:36:35 +0000 (msg id: 3434879145)
OK TweetChat acting weird… can someone tell me what ILL is? #followreaderPosted by Writing_Is_Fun at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:36:39 +0000 (msg id: 3434880149)
@Center4Fiction it also means that libraries are helping CREATE not just organize what already exists. Tools so cheap now. #followreaderPosted by mutabilis at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:37:01 +0000 (msg id: 3434886936)
RT @mutabilis: starting an initiative to recruit/teach local teens to create content for TeenZone of website. #followreaderPosted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:37:13 +0000 (msg id: 3434890918)
Absolutely! RT@VassilikiVeros Something about finding a book thru serendipity. Harder to re-create when you browse websites #followreaderPosted by buriedbybooks at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:37:18 +0000 (msg id: 3434892246)
@Center4Fiction Absolutely! Important service for housebound and isolated communities. #followreaderPosted by VassilikiVeros at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:37:33 +0000 (msg id: 3434896690)
@KatMeyer Definitely, I think. It’s a bit easier in a huge system, but it’s very hard. #followreaderPosted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:37:33 +0000 (msg id: 3434896915)
@ReeshaGeppert I admire Gutenberg Project. But am torn with the feel of a book in hand, or global-friendly publishing #followreaderPosted by mciddangelo at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:37:34 +0000 (msg id: 3434897055)
@Writing_Is_Fun ILL= Inter-library loan #followreaderPosted by susanmpls at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:37:41 +0000 (msg id: 3434899240)
YES!!! RT@VassilikiVeros Something about finding a book thru serendipity. Harder to re-create when you browse websites #followreaderPosted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:38:10 +0000 (msg id: 3434908094)
umm, globl meaning, of course, environmentally friendly. #followreaderPosted by mciddangelo at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:38:17 +0000 (msg id: 3434910136)
@Writing_Is_Fun inter library loan (i think):) #followreaderPosted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:38:30 +0000 (msg id: 3434914216)
@susanmpls Thanks Susan #followreaderPosted by Writing_Is_Fun at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:39:00 +0000 (msg id: 3434923255)
@maggiedana It’s interesting they took that step! I wonder what other libraries do that… #followreaderPosted by belsito at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:39:05 +0000 (msg id: 3434924564)
Hmm, how to foster serendipity online … #followreaderPosted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:39:21 +0000 (msg id: 3434929663)
@KatMeyer Yes schools do teach kids and take them to libraries but downloading books is not yet in the mix. #followreaderPosted by JenniferWeltz at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:39:38 +0000 (msg id: 3434934947)
@ReeshaGeppert Project Gutenburg is for materials that are in the public domain. They can’t fill the role of a public library. #followreaderPosted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:39:39 +0000 (msg id: 3434935079)
RT @kishizuka: Hmm, how to foster (ebook) serendipity online … #followreaderPosted by Writing_Is_Fun at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:40:07 +0000 (msg id: 3434944127)
RT @maggiedana I seriously doubt a loanable e-reader is as sturdy or long-lived as a casebound book. #followreaderPosted by pitchparlour at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:40:12 +0000 (msg id: 3434945949)
@KatMeyer My son’s school has weekly trips to the school library to learn how to use it and about books. #followreaderPosted by pussreboots at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:40:22 +0000 (msg id: 3434949214)
@VassilikiVeros I absolutely agree with you about that! #followreaderPosted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:40:39 +0000 (msg id: 3434954576)
@maggiedana Can’t have the content deleted so easily either! #followreaderPosted by pitchparlour at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:40:47 +0000 (msg id: 3434956996)
@KatMeyer Public libraries have always been about offering everything to everyone. Jack of all trades – master of none #followreaderPosted by VassilikiVeros at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:40:47 +0000 (msg id: 3434957102)
@KatMeyer Library and research skills remain a big part of the job. Though some are ditching Dewey. #followreaderPosted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:40:58 +0000 (msg id: 3434960477)
@pussreboots And in college (18 years ago) I had to take a “how to use the library” 1 unit course for my major. #followreaderPosted by pussreboots at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:40:58 +0000 (msg id: 3434960511)
mutabilis And potential for Libraries to create, not just store is huge re online home schooling. Ipersonal textbooks anyone? #followreaderPosted by Center4Fiction at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:41:11 +0000 (msg id: 3434964462)
@shayera which is true. #followreaderPosted by mciddangelo at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:41:29 +0000 (msg id: 3434969985)
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.@kishizuka @shayera what’s the reaction among librarians about Google Book Search? Good? Bad? Indifferent? #followreaderPosted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:41:30 +0000 (msg id: 3434970340)
@shayera #followreader yeah, which means there’d be a gap. But it is the closest thing to an online library I’ve seen.Posted by ReeshaGeppert at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:42:04 +0000 (msg id: 3434980881)
@pussreboots there is less and less library instruction, partly because rules/tech keeps changing. Emph now on point of need. #followreaderPosted by mutabilis at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:42:13 +0000 (msg id: 3434984072)
@kishizuka ditching Dewey in favour of what? #followreaderPosted by jnyrose at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:42:15 +0000 (msg id: 3434984582)
I’m still left wondering what the future holds for libraries. Will the next gen view them as museums? #followreaderPosted by Writing_Is_Fun at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:42:37 +0000 (msg id: 3434991102)
@Center4Fiction Yes! Open digital content is a great op for librarians. SLJ ed Brian Kenny covers this in our Sept editorial. #followreaderPosted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:42:37 +0000 (msg id: 3434991278)
Content is King. It really doesn’t matter what the medium is. People open to print & digital as long as it meets their needs #followreaderPosted by VassilikiVeros at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:42:45 +0000 (msg id: 3434993557)
@jnyrose Ditching Dewey? Hope not. Took me decades to figure it out and now they want something else???? #followreaderPosted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:43:26 +0000 (msg id: 3435006122)
@KatMeyer We teach students about how to use the library as well. Both my children’s and YA librarians do it. #followreaderPosted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:43:44 +0000 (msg id: 3435011518)
Stupid ?: Any concerns about obsolescence w/ re: to digital content and library budgets? Bound books don’t go out of style #followreaderPosted by buriedbybooks at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:44:25 +0000 (msg id: 3435024313)
@KatMeyer I personally think it’s somewhat interesting. But not a lot of discussion here lately about it otherwise. #followreaderPosted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:44:46 +0000 (msg id: 3435031079)
@jnyrose Dewey alts: Some r considering: http://bit.ly/BISAC also LibraryThing’s Open Shelves. #followreaderPosted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:44:51 +0000 (msg id: 3435032557)
Other big change will be re real estate. If libraries are interactive centers rather than huge storehouses, more #followreaderPosted by Center4Fiction at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:44:56 +0000 (msg id: 3435034116)
@maggiedana Colleges use the library of congress system for their collections. #followreaderPosted by pussreboots at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:44:59 +0000 (msg id: 3435034976)
@maggiedana @jnyrose some public libraries use systems adapted from bookstores instead of Dewey Decimal. DDC seen as a barrier #followreaderPosted by mutabilis at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:45:09 +0000 (msg id: 3435038406)
@kishizuka great movie scene: Parker Posey in “Party Girl” organizing dj boyfriend’s record collect. by dewy decimal system #followreaderPosted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:45:11 +0000 (msg id: 3435038844)
@shayera @kishizuka do you think e-books will allow for larger collections? No need to prune if no physical space taken up? #followreaderPosted by jnyrose at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:45:42 +0000 (msg id: 3435048762)
every library I visit has throngs of people reading hard copy as well as using the Internet. libraries are far from over. #followreaderPosted by mciddangelo at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:46:10 +0000 (msg id: 3435057839)
@KatMeyer I’ve done that in my own home. #followreaderPosted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:46:11 +0000 (msg id: 3435058303)
@pussreboots LoC? Probably even more complicated! #followreaderPosted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:46:22 +0000 (msg id: 3435061605)
@KatMeyer Surprisingly, we haven’t seen much comment or interest in the Google Book issue from our readers. #followreaderPosted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:46:41 +0000 (msg id: 3435067661)
.@shayera @kishizuka am i right to assume that printed books are as popular as ever with students + patrons? #followreaderPosted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:46:50 +0000 (msg id: 3435070586)
RT @KatMeyer: .@kishizuka @shayera whats the reaction among librarians about Google Book Search? Good? Bad? Indifferent? #followreaderPosted by Writing_Is_Fun at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:46:57 +0000 (msg id: 3435072748)
Then the actual books int he stacks that are left will be “curated” Librarians will be curators of lit? #followreaderPosted by Center4Fiction at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:46:58 +0000 (msg id: 3435072889)
@mutabilis My library uses the Dewey / Book store hybrid. Fiction is organized like store.. nonfiction is Dewey. #followreaderPosted by pussreboots at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:47:17 +0000 (msg id: 3435078902)
@jnyrose Yes. We can buy computer books, etc in eformat and not have to purchase the paper copy. #followreaderPosted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:47:32 +0000 (msg id: 3435083301)
@KatMeyer Absolutely. My holds shelves are packed. People love their paper. #followreaderPosted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:48:15 +0000 (msg id: 3435096913)
@maggiedana You can learn the numbering system for the subjects you’re most interested in. PN1995a = film scripts. #followreaderPosted by pussreboots at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:48:21 +0000 (msg id: 3435098544)
the days of hard copy may be over before long (kindle, ebooks, adobe, etc) but libraries will endure #followreaderPosted by mciddangelo at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:48:27 +0000 (msg id: 3435100564)
RT @KatMeyer: great movie scene: Parker Posey in “Party Girl” organizing dj boyfriend’s record collect. by dewy decimal system #followreaderPosted by charabbott at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:48:30 +0000 (msg id: 3435101321)
@jnyrose Re: larger collectins: some bks are paid for based on patron access, & lib budgets will need to deal w/new biz model. #followreaderPosted by susanmpls at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:48:36 +0000 (msg id: 3435103130)
@KatMeyer The success of Harry Potter, Twilight demonstrates kids’ enthusiasm. #followreaderPosted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:48:52 +0000 (msg id: 3435108372)
@shayera Technology books make sense as ebooks as the technology changes so rapidly. #followreaderPosted by pussreboots at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:48:54 +0000 (msg id: 3435108751)
@jnyrose this is very true in academic libraries. digital means more access to journals, etc. #followreaderPosted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:49:07 +0000 (msg id: 3435112699)
@pussreboots Am committing it to memory. #followreaderPosted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:49:17 +0000 (msg id: 3435116007)
The best thing, as Anna Quindlen wrote, the kids discovered Harry Potter themselves. Yay, kids. #followreaderPosted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:49:30 +0000 (msg id: 3435119879)
Took grandkids to beach yesterday. !5 yr old grandson brought TWO Kindles to read. One for each eye? #followreaderPosted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:50:07 +0000 (msg id: 3435131410)
RT @MCidDAngelo the days of hard copy may be over before long (kindle, ebooks, adobe, etc) but libraries will endure #followreaderPosted by TheDebster at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:50:11 +0000 (msg id: 3435132788)
@shayera We are opening a new larger branch for our local library to house more volumes. So yes, people still love paper. #followreaderPosted by pussreboots at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:50:19 +0000 (msg id: 3435135474)
just b/c bks are digital doesn’t mean collections will automatically increase. Libraries still need $ to buy the books. #followreaderPosted by susanmpls at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:50:21 +0000 (msg id: 3435136036)
@buriedbybooks Not a stupid question, I think we’ll see an increase in people using eformats. But paper will still remain. #followreaderPosted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:50:39 +0000 (msg id: 3435141665)
Story about library that did away with Dewey Decimal: http://bit.ly/Urrxc #followreaderPosted by mutabilis at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:50:50 +0000 (msg id: 3435145070)
RT @maggiedana: Took grandkids to beach yesterday. !5 yr old grandson brought TWO Kindles to read. One for each eye? #followreaderPosted by Writing_Is_Fun at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:51:09 +0000 (msg id: 3435151047)
RT Chat going on now at #followreader on libraries and the digital age. Come and join us. (via @maggiedana) (v. Interesting tweets)Posted by KirkusReviews at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:51:37 +0000 (msg id: 3435159650)
@TheDebster thanks for the RT; libraries will endure because not everyone has access to comps or $$ for bookstores #followreaderPosted by mciddangelo at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:51:39 +0000 (msg id: 3435160122)
@pussreboots Exactly. And I think that’s one of the main reasons we do it that way. #followreaderPosted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:51:40 +0000 (msg id: 3435160621)
@maggiedana That is awesome. Maybe he was comparing texts? Love it. #followreaderPosted by jnyrose at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:52:11 +0000 (msg id: 3435170282)
@mutabilis I don’t remember getting any until college. I was surprised when my son had weekly library instruction. #followreaderPosted by pussreboots at Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:52:16 +0000 (msg id: 3435171671)
School lib collections have been shrinking since 04/05 See our May 09 survey, & that’s before the downturn. http://bit.ly/jih5 #followreaderPosted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:52:21 +0000 (msg id: 3435173054)
@KirkusReviews Hi Kirkus. Glad you could join in. #followreaderPosted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:52:31 +0000 (msg id: 3435176260)
to all librarians here, would you please share what you love most about your work? #followreaderPosted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:52:34 +0000 (msg id: 3435177184)
sometimes we authors want to make $$ with our works, but we still want to be read. #followreader viva libraries!Posted by mciddangelo at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:52:46 +0000 (msg id: 3435181000)
@jnyrose All this AND cavorting with a pair of fetching female teens! #followreaderPosted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:52:55 +0000 (msg id: 3435183790)
@pussreboots You’re so lucky! It’s fantastic to hear about administration that values the paper as well as the digital. #followreaderPosted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:53:08 +0000 (msg id: 3435187646)
@maggiedana ahhh, youth. Brave of them, though, how did the Kindle fair with the sand? #followreaderPosted by jnyrose at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:53:56 +0000 (msg id: 3435202284)
RT @kishizuka: School lib collections have been shrinking since 04/05 & thats before the downturn. http://bit.ly/jih5 #followreaderPosted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:54:08 +0000 (msg id: 3435205710)
RT @maggiedana @jnyrose All this AND cavorting with a pair of fetching female teens! #followreader (Now I’m really missing out!)Posted by pitchparlour at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:54:08 +0000 (msg id: 3435205751)
@mciddangelo Recent surveys reveal sharp increase in library usage. ALA is leveraging this to support lib funding. #followreaderPosted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:54:20 +0000 (msg id: 3435209674)
@shayera My son has a fantastic school. Yes, we are very lucky! #followreaderPosted by pussreboots at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:54:22 +0000 (msg id: 3435210132)
I design and typeset books for a living, so am bit of a grouch when it comes to e-books. #followreaderPosted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:54:26 +0000 (msg id: 3435211385)
I love helping people make connections with fun/great books and info they need/want. Tiny moment where ur a pt of thr lives. #followreaderPosted by mutabilis at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:54:43 +0000 (msg id: 3435216607)
RT Chat going on now at #followreader on libraries & the digital age. Come and join us. (via @maggiedana) (via @KirkusReviews) v interestingPosted by TheBookseller at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:54:46 +0000 (msg id: 3435217512)
@jnyrose The Kindles only survived the sand because I kept rescuing them when owner was off cavorting. #followreaderPosted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:54:54 +0000 (msg id: 3435219908)
@kishizuka that is great news about ALA #followreaderPosted by mciddangelo at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:54:56 +0000 (msg id: 3435220584)
I love identifying what borrowers are really needing and then helping them find it. I love being the smartypants in the room #followreaderPosted by VassilikiVeros at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:55:25 +0000 (msg id: 3435229930)
@kishizuka My son’s library collection has a lot of other school library discards. #followreaderPosted by pussreboots at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:55:31 +0000 (msg id: 3435232005)
@KatMeyer all of us here agree that what we love most is interaction–all the talk about books #followreaderPosted by Center4Fiction at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:55:45 +0000 (msg id: 3435236382)
@KatMeyer schools have also been losing librarians and even physical space for libraries. Not good. #followreaderPosted by jnyrose at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:55:50 +0000 (msg id: 3435237924)
@KatMeyer I love giving someone a book they’ve never heard of and having them come back to me raving about it. #followreaderPosted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:56:10 +0000 (msg id: 3435244409)
We’ve seen huge increases. Homework Help and Summer Reading up over 30% in ONE year. #followreaderPosted by mutabilis at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:56:45 +0000 (msg id: 3435255487)
@maggiedana Yes but information design for the screen is just as important & perhaps a barrier in reading ebooks #followreaderPosted by VassilikiVeros at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:57:08 +0000 (msg id: 3435262189)
RT @jnyrose: @KatMeyer schools have also been losing librarians and even physical space for libraries. #followreader a bureaucratic problemPosted by mciddangelo at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:57:21 +0000 (msg id: 3435266135)
@shayera I love seeing my son come home with a book his librarian has recommended. They’ve all been fantastic! #followreaderPosted by pussreboots at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:57:35 +0000 (msg id: 3435270502)
is it weird that i’m really really excited @kirkusreviews is on the chat? (i’m like george clooney excited. really.) #followreaderPosted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:57:41 +0000 (msg id: 3435272317)
@maggiedana Tactile experience with physical books is important to most readers I know. Not an ebook fan either #followreaderPosted by buriedbybooks at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:58:11 +0000 (msg id: 3435281711)
@VassilikiVeros So far screen design sorely lacking. Reading a Kindle is like reading wet newsprint. #followreaderPosted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:58:40 +0000 (msg id: 3435290498)
Fantastic! RT @mutabilis We’ve seen huge increases. Homework Help and Summer Reading up over 30% in ONE year. #followreader #followreaderPosted by VassilikiVeros at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:58:41 +0000 (msg id: 3435290686)
Heck yes. RT @VassilikiVeros: @maggiedana information design for screen is as important/perhaps a barrier in reading ebooks #followreaderPosted by jnyrose at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:58:46 +0000 (msg id: 3435292347)
Many schools opened this year in our area with no librarian. Not even an asst. #followreaderPosted by mutabilis at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:58:50 +0000 (msg id: 3435293494)
@Center4Fiction Our need to discuss what we’re reading fuels those online communities. How can adults get kids involved there? #followreaderPosted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:58:56 +0000 (msg id: 3435295233)
@buriedbybooks <—- A Luddite after my own heart. #followreaderPosted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:59:07 +0000 (msg id: 3435298832)
Providing ebooks and audio to patrons is expensive. Overdrive license is $28,000 a year, not counting cost of books. #followreaderPosted by Center4Fiction at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:59:09 +0000 (msg id: 3435299620)
anyone have recommendations on how we can support public and school libraries? any sites where we can find info? #followreaderPosted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:59:52 +0000 (msg id: 3435312712)
Leaving for desk time in teen room. Bye! #followreaderPosted by mutabilis at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:59:52 +0000 (msg id: 3435312750)
@pussreboots A win for everybody. I bet they love to see him coming. #followreaderPosted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:59:55 +0000 (msg id: 3435313824)
(cont from last post) So where does that leave small rural libraries who want to provide digital content? #followreaderPosted by Center4Fiction at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:00:06 +0000 (msg id: 3435317625)
RT @katemessner As an author, I’d be lost w/out my library’s ability/willingness to secure materials thru inter-library loan. #followreaderPosted by suzigurl at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:00:13 +0000 (msg id: 3435320595)
A growing trend – RT @mutabilis: Many schools opened this year in our area with no librarian. Not even an asst. #followreaderPosted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:30:33 +0000 (msg id: 3435327454)
RT @maggiedana: @VassilikiVeros So far screen design sorely lacking. Reading a Kindle is like reading wet newsprint. #followreaderPosted by Writing_Is_Fun at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:00:51 +0000 (msg id: 3435333138)
i live in area + didn’t know this. RT @mutabilis: Many schools opened this year in our area w/no librarian. Not even an asst. #followreaderPosted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:00:59 +0000 (msg id: 3435335880)
@maggiedana I’m a book luddite. #followreaderPosted by pussreboots at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:01:02 +0000 (msg id: 3435336867)
@kishizuka We thankfully have a full time librarian and 2 part time assistants at my son’s school. #followreaderPosted by pussreboots at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:01:52 +0000 (msg id: 3435353178)
@Center4Fiction could they band together somehow and share? It seems that e-tech should make books MORE available not less. #followreaderPosted by jnyrose at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:01:58 +0000 (msg id: 3435355020)
Great discussion of libraries in the digital age today at #followreaderPosted by Center4Fiction at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:02:07 +0000 (msg id: 3435358079)
we try to do book fair fundraisers for our school libraries – supporters buy books, put receipts in a bowl, and we give (cont) #followreaderPosted by jennIRL at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:02:08 +0000 (msg id: 3435358200)
@Center4Fiction We’re lucky to have enough $ for normal business hours & access! #followreaderPosted by buriedbybooks at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:02:09 +0000 (msg id: 3435358587)
@maggiedana Too funny… Keep cracking those oneliners and we’ll have to give you a stage & mike #followreaderPosted by Writing_Is_Fun at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:02:09 +0000 (msg id: 3435358751)
@pussreboots @maggiedana Believe me, I am too. I buy an occasional ebook, but I love my paper books. #followreaderPosted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:02:14 +0000 (msg id: 3435360217)
RT @KatMeyer RT @kishizuka: School lib collections have been shrinking since 04/05 & thats b4 the downturn. http://bit.ly/jih5 #followreaderPosted by Raul_Ramos at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:02:16 +0000 (msg id: 3435360871)
How to support public & school libraries – borrow more books. Councils look at our loans & memberships as basis for funding #followreaderPosted by VassilikiVeros at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:02:20 +0000 (msg id: 3435361960)
@shayera I have sent thank you notes with my son to give to the librarian. I’ve never had the pleasure of meeting in person. #followreader
Posted by pussreboots at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:02:35 +0000 (msg id: 3435366567)
it’s 5pm EST. just a heads up. ur more than welcome 2 stay+ chat. i’ll post summary Mon. at http://www.followthereader.wordpress.com #followreaderPosted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:02:41 +0000 (msg id: 3435368547)
(cont) a % in store credit back to the school library #followreaderPosted by jennIRL at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:02:48 +0000 (msg id: 3435370716)
@KatMeyer ALA’s Wash office for PL support. K-12: Educate your district/state about the importance of school libraries. #followreaderPosted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:03:12 +0000 (msg id: 3435378150)
<— Bowing and blushing @Writing_Is_Fun #followreaderPosted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:03:26 +0000 (msg id: 3435382686)
@Center4Fiction Such a tough questions. Maybe a partnership w/ nearby communities? #followreaderPosted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:03:40 +0000 (msg id: 3435387105)
@pussreboots I bet they appreciated it though. #followreaderPosted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:04:15 +0000 (msg id: 3435397924)
@kishizuka To get kids involved in online book talk, I create discussion forums on Moodle for our literature circles choices. #followreaderPosted by KateMessner at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:04:22 +0000 (msg id: 3435400305)
@shayera I just got through figuring out papyrus … and now it’s all about e-books. I’ll never catch up. #followreaderPosted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:04:27 +0000 (msg id: 3435401993)
@maggiedana Bought Twilight as an e-book experiment. It was fine, but not something I would choose to revisit. #followreaderPosted by pitchparlour at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:05:06 +0000 (msg id: 3435413580)
RT @Center4Fiction: Providing ebooks+ audio 2 patrons is expensive.Overdrive license is $28,000/yr, not counting cost of books #followreaderPosted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:05:17 +0000 (msg id: 3435417321)
@pitchparlour The book or the technology? #followreaderPosted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:05:34 +0000 (msg id: 3435422713)
RT @VassilikiVeros: To support libraries – borrow more books. Councils look at loans & memberships as basis for funding #followreaderPosted by Writing_Is_Fun at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:05:36 +0000 (msg id: 3435423094)
Can’t disagree: RT @maggiedana So far screen design sorely lacking. Reading a Kindle is like reading wet newsprint. #followreaderPosted by iron_mum at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:06:01 +0000 (msg id: 3435430557)
Can’t disagree: RT @maggiedana So far screen design sorely lacking. Reading a Kindle is like reading wet newsprint. #followreaderPosted by bookstothesky at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:06:17 +0000 (msg id: 3435435700)
before i forget – thank you so much @kishizuka + @shayera for joining us and for all the great information. #followreaderPosted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:06:27 +0000 (msg id: 3435438989)
@jennIRL On a very local level – you, er, we parents have enormous power. Make your voices heard. Libraries: leverage this. #followreaderPosted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:06:47 +0000 (msg id: 3435444964)
THANKS from me, too. RT @KatMeyer: Thank you so much @kishizuka + @shayera for joining us and for all the great information. #followreaderPosted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:07:23 +0000 (msg id: 3435455927)
having technical probs following this but it looks interesting #followreaderPosted by rebeccawoodhead at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:07:28 +0000 (msg id: 3435457628)
and, any librarians (and others) who have more to add, please do – I’ll post the summary on Monday. Great conversation. thanku #followreaderPosted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:07:33 +0000 (msg id: 3435459112)
thanks @kishizuka and @shayera for the great #followreader and @maggiedana for all the one-liners . (and @KatMeyer too!) #followreaderPosted by jnyrose at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:07:57 +0000 (msg id: 3435466285)
@maggiedana Good question. Probably both. And it save me five pounds. Am I a bad person? #followreaderPosted by pitchparlour at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:08:02 +0000 (msg id: 3435467856)
Thanks, @KatMeyer @kishizuka @shayera – for a great discussion on libraries & the digital age! #followreaderPosted by KateMessner at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:08:04 +0000 (msg id: 3435468499)
@rebeccawoodhead Uh, oh … are the gremlins after you? #followreaderPosted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:08:23 +0000 (msg id: 3435474141)
@KatMeyer Holt smokes was that fun! Thanks for all the really interesting questions! #followreaderPosted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:08:30 +0000 (msg id: 3435476307)
@kishizuka @jennIRL couldn’t agree more. Parental ire and uproar saved our librarian. #followreaderPosted by jnyrose at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:08:43 +0000 (msg id: 3435480229)
@KatMeyer Thanks for hosting another great event & thanks to @kishizuka & @shayera #followreaderPosted by Writing_Is_Fun at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:08:50 +0000 (msg id: 3435482244)
@KatMeyer @kishizuka @shayera Thank you! Well worth waking up at 5 to take part! #followreaderPosted by VassilikiVeros at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:08:50 +0000 (msg id: 3435482511)
<— smacking —> @pitchparlour YES, a very bad person. #followreaderPosted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:08:53 +0000 (msg id: 3435483282)
@KatMeyer Holy smokes was that fun! Thanks for all the really interesting questions! #followreaderPosted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:09:05 +0000 (msg id: 3435486758)
looks like I missed #followreader Harumph. Right place, wrong time as ever Posted by agnieszkasshoes at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:09:50 +0000 (msg id: 3435500408)
—> @VassilikiVeros is candidate for sainthood for getting up before dawn. #followreaderPosted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:09:52 +0000 (msg id: 3435500822)
Thanks for a fantastic discussion. Sorry I missed the first half. #followreaderPosted by pussreboots at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:10:18 +0000 (msg id: 3435509020)
—> @agnieszkasshoes is naughty boy for missing #followreader. Let’s give him lines. #followreaderPosted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:10:41 +0000 (msg id: 3435516403)
I’ll gather up links to resources 4supporting local and school libraries for the summary post. pls share any u come across! #followreaderPosted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:10:45 +0000 (msg id: 3435517830)
Well… back to work #followreaderPosted by Writing_Is_Fun at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:11:41 +0000 (msg id: 3435535075)
@KatMeyer Feel free to delete my inane posts in your summary. #followreaderPosted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:11:47 +0000 (msg id: 3435536811)
finally caught up just as it ended Wanted to make a point about e-reading devices being a barrier to access unless free #followreaderPosted by rebeccawoodhead at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:12:21 +0000 (msg id: 3435547060)
Thank you, @ KatMeyer @Shayera and everyone. This has been fun. #followreaderPosted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:13:13 +0000 (msg id: 3435563484)
@maggiedana I wanted to see what the hype was about. Read Twilight, bought the others (paperback) – disappointed. #followreaderPosted by pitchparlour at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:13:24 +0000 (msg id: 3435567420)
Thank you, @ KatMeyer and everyone. This has been fun. #followreaderPosted by gnarfke at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:13:25 +0000 (msg id: 3435567631)
I think UK libraries may be a step behind. Maybe US libraries already have this covered. Imp thing is for info to b free 2 all #followreaderPosted by rebeccawoodhead at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:13:25 +0000 (msg id: 3435567758)
RT @KatMeyer: to all librarians here, would you please share what you love most about your work? #followreaderPosted by CarinBerger at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:13:57 +0000 (msg id: 3435577267)
@rebeccawoodhead UK libraries PAY authors each time book is checked out. US libraries do not. Which one is ahead? #followreaderPosted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:14:26 +0000 (msg id: 3435586450)
@maggiedana you’re kidding? No PLR in US? Wowsers. #followreaderPosted by rebeccawoodhead at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:15:37 +0000 (msg id: 3435608970)
Have folks seen? Growth of ebooks in libraries, an IFLA report. http://bit.ly/3kTBO9 #followreaderPosted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:15:55 +0000 (msg id: 3435614295)
Let me rephrase that: UK authors earn royalties each time book is checked out of library; authors in US do not. #followreaderPosted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:16:05 +0000 (msg id: 3435617196)
@maggiedana REALLY? How does that work? Libs pay to buy the book, and then again as loaned? Or do pubs donate initially? #followreaderPosted by BenRubinstein at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:16:15 +0000 (msg id: 3435620308)
@maggiedana @rebeccawoodhead Australia has PLR too – great for authors #followreaderPosted by VassilikiVeros at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:16:26 +0000 (msg id: 3435623594)
@VassilikiVeros Pls explain PLR for US viewers. An alien concept, I’m afraid. #followreaderPosted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:17:20 +0000 (msg id: 3435640427)
@BenRubinstein the government pays it. Royalties to authors when books are taken out. Can’t claim retrospectively though #followreaderPosted by rebeccawoodhead at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:17:35 +0000 (msg id: 3435644987)
@maggiedana I’m on it Authors have to register for PLR – not everyone knows about it. Curious whether it applies 2 US in UK #followreaderPosted by rebeccawoodhead at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:18:23 +0000 (msg id: 3435659581)
@BenRubinstein Here is how it works in Australia #followreader http://tinyurl.com/nzv82yPosted by VassilikiVeros at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:18:23 +0000 (msg id: 3435659598)
@maggiedana That’s a really fascinating idea, I have to say. #followreaderPosted by shayera at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:18:31 +0000 (msg id: 3435662099)
@rebeccawoodhead Government? Paying authors via libraries? Republicans would HATE this. #followreaderPosted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:18:36 +0000 (msg id: 3435663506)
#followreader 2 branches by me have little to offer. use them only for rtrns & p/up of bks i’ve rqsted online.Posted by latta at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:18:39 +0000 (msg id: 3435664623)
@rebeccawoodhead i.e. if you’re a US writer and your books are published here, can you get money off our gov 4 library action #followreaderPosted by rebeccawoodhead at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:19:19 +0000 (msg id: 3435676569)
@rebeccawoodhead I’m a UK citizen, but not a resident; get nothing when my book is checked out of UK library. Sadly. #followreaderPosted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:20:08 +0000 (msg id: 3435691154)
RT @agnieszkasshoes: looks like I missed #followreader Harumph. Right place, wrong time as ever Posted by EZF_TopAuthors at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:20:08 +0000 (msg id: 3435691161)
@shayera I thought it happened everywhere. Explains the silence when I asked a US writer just pub’d here if they’d registered #followreaderPosted by rebeccawoodhead at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:20:50 +0000 (msg id: 3435704332)
@maggiedana oh. Do you have to be UK resident to take advantage of it? #followreaderPosted by rebeccawoodhead at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:21:27 +0000 (msg id: 3435715974)
@rebeccawoodhead Yes. You need to be resident, and I’m not. #followreaderPosted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:22:16 +0000 (msg id: 3435730939)
great survey on ebooks in libraries RT @kishizuka: …Growth of ebooks in libraries, an IFLA report. http://bit.ly/3kTBO9 #followreaderPosted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:22:20 +0000 (msg id: 3435731888)
RT @KateMessner Thanks, @KatMeyer @kishizuka @shayera – for a great discussion on libraries & the digital age! #followreaderPosted by kishizuka at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:22:24 +0000 (msg id: 3435733057)
lots of UK authors don’t know about it.The person most taken out of libraries last yr didn’t. They wouldn’t let him claim back #followreaderPosted by rebeccawoodhead at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:22:39 +0000 (msg id: 3435737689)
@EZF_TopAuthors i’ll post summary on monday (u can still add comments/questions – many of us still online + chatting) #followreaderPosted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:23:08 +0000 (msg id: 3435746298)
@rebeccawoodhead Libraries in US are funded locally, not by g’ment. So no way of making PLR work here. #followreaderPosted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:23:19 +0000 (msg id: 3435749771)
PLR -authors paid for each copy of their book held in a public lib- only available 4 Aust authors #followreader http://tinyurl.com/mqd8szPosted by VassilikiVeros at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:23:42 +0000 (msg id: 3435756446)
i’m still here, but in and out. thanks again all. #followreaderPosted by KatMeyer at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:23:47 +0000 (msg id: 3435757795)
@maggiedana shame. Still – you’ve got Kindle and we haven’t so ‘swings and roundabouts’ #followreaderPosted by rebeccawoodhead at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:24:12 +0000 (msg id: 3435765414)
@rebeccawoodhead My editor at Macmillan emails his authors periodically to remind them to register for PLR. #followreaderPosted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:24:29 +0000 (msg id: 3435770490)
@rebeccawoodhead You can HAVE bloody Kindle in return for my PLR. #followreaderPosted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:24:56 +0000 (msg id: 3435778618)
Am wondering if this back and forth about PRL will help shed light in darker corners of globe? #followreaderPosted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:26:00 +0000 (msg id: 3435797844)
@rebeccawoodhead Doesn’t that seem odd? The book was already purchased, why pay again? #followreaderPosted by BenRubinstein at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:26:04 +0000 (msg id: 3435799000)
@BenRubinstein In UK, the g’ment helps to encourage/support authors via PLR. Sadly, this doesn’t happen in US. #followreaderPosted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:27:36 +0000 (msg id: 3435827123)
@BenRubinstein odd? No. Delicious Means you can be a writer and still encourage peeps to use libraries #followreaderPosted by rebeccawoodhead at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:28:05 +0000 (msg id: 3435835813)
@BenRubinstein It’s payment for missed sales. If 100 copies of book are in libraries x 20 loans each = 2000 lost sales #followreaderPosted by VassilikiVeros at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:29:07 +0000 (msg id: 3435854516)
@maggiedana your editor sounds fab Much of the time it’s left up to luck whether the author’s done their research or not #followreaderPosted by rebeccawoodhead at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:29:21 +0000 (msg id: 3435858744)
@VassilikiVeros good point #followreaderPosted by rebeccawoodhead at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:29:46 +0000 (msg id: 3435866534)
@rebeccawoodhead My editor is awesome, and the best thing is, he doesn’t even know it. A truly fabulous guy. #followreaderPosted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:31:11 +0000 (msg id: 3435893501)
@VassilikiVeros That’s an excellent explanation and one worth repeating in the Luddite US. #followreaderPosted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:32:37 +0000 (msg id: 3435919972)
@maggiedana Showing off now Don’t start a fisticuffs with the unpublished – we’re vicious when baited, lol! #followreaderPosted by rebeccawoodhead at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:33:10 +0000 (msg id: 3435930010)
right, I’m leaving tweetchat now but thanks so much for a lovely and interesting chat. Sorry I missed so much. #followreaderPosted by rebeccawoodhead at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:34:11 +0000 (msg id: 3435948357)
I can download online in Houston. RT @chriswebb Do I have to physically visit a library branch to for their digital offerings? #followreaderPosted by DashBook at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:34:21 +0000 (msg id: 3435951452)
RT @CarinBerger: RT @KatMeyer: to all librarians here, would you please share what you love most about your work? #followreaderPosted by EZF_TopAuthors at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:35:14 +0000 (msg id: 3435967854)
RT @Writing_Is_Fun: RT @VassilikiVeros: To support libraries – borrow more bks. Councils look at loans & m/ships when funding #followreaderPosted by inkwellHQ at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:36:24 +0000 (msg id: 3435989310)
@rebeccawoodhead Don’t shortchange yourself, MS. UK TWITTER!! I’m in awe of your accomplishments. Proud to know you, so there. #followreaderPosted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:36:44 +0000 (msg id: 3435995531)
Really? We’re being robbed! RT @maggiedana UK authors earn royalties ea. time book checked out of library; not authors in US #followreaderPosted by SRussellWrites at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:37:49 +0000 (msg id: 3436015411)
@VassilikiVeros Actually, 100 copies x 20 loans each = 1900 lost sales — library bought those 100 copies! #followreaderPosted by castironowl at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:38:09 +0000 (msg id: 3436021557)
@maggiedana feeling’s mutual #followreaderPosted by rebeccawoodhead at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:38:53 +0000 (msg id: 3436034703)
@SRussellWrites Yes, we’re being robbed, but I doubt anyone cares. #followreaderPosted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:39:35 +0000 (msg id: 3436047445)
@castironowl Ooops! Please recalculate! #followreaderPosted by VassilikiVeros at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:40:05 +0000 (msg id: 3436056195)
@rebeccawoodhead Awe, thanks. Have a good night and keep me posted on Ms. Twitter EUROPE !!!! #followreaderPosted by maggiedana at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:40:16 +0000 (msg id: 3436059762)
And might not all be lost sales. If I like book I checked out, I buy it. If I didn’t read in library, still wouldn’t buy new. #followreaderPosted by castironowl at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:42:03 +0000 (msg id: 3436092496)
@maggiedana How much more are you willing to pay in taxes so your library can pay author royalties? #followreaderPosted by castironowl at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:45:03 +0000 (msg id: 3436146534)
@maggiedana I like the idea of paying author royalties on library checkouts, but in U.S. don’t see it being feasible #followreaderPosted by castironowl at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:45:58 +0000 (msg id: 3436164404)
@maggiedana #followreader Pulled out of Euro comp and set up http://WordNerdArmy.blogspot.com instead.Ms Twitter got me Booktrust gig tho Posted by rebeccawoodhead at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:49:55 +0000 (msg id: 3436236409)
@VassilikiVeros Of course, MMPBs in bad shape after 20 chkouts, so if lib replaces, 20 loans might still = only 19 lost sales! #followreaderPosted by castironowl at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:51:39 +0000 (msg id: 3436268868)
RT @KateMessner As an author, I’d be lost w/out my library’s ability/willingness to secure materials through interlibrary loan #followreaderPosted by bookwit at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:53:57 +0000 (msg id: 3436311095)
Please host another! Couldn’t make it today. RT@kishizuka: Thank you, @ KatMeyer @Shayera and everyone. This has been fun. #followreaderPosted by AyodeleOjumu at Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:54:00 +0000 (msg id: 3436311760)
As a Librarian (MLIS and all), this post caught my eye. The library that did away w/Dewey especially caught my eye!